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Model Y pros:
1. More efficient (better for planet)
2. Faster
3. Software (competitive moat)
4. Charging network
5. Proven reliable (over 1,000,000 EVs sold, cosmetic issues notwithstanding)
6. Business units capable of repurposing old EV batteries
7. American jobs
8. S3X appeal
Mach-E pros
1. Cosmetic condition at delivery (remains to be seen)
2. Ventilated seats, heated steering wheel
Exactly. I think the Mach E is a compelling EV. I had a reservation but canceled when I got the Y. I love Fords and I wish them luck with it but when it comes to EV, Tesla is far ahead of Ford. Doubtful Ford will ever catch up.Because it's slower, has less range, charges slower, has fewer places to charge...that's just offhand.
This is what I keep coming back to over and over again. Every time other car manufacturers come out with an EV with pretty decent range and good looks I immediately realize that it isn't practical for trips. The Mach E, Volvo XC40, Audi Q4, Polestar 2 all look interesting but the supercharger network is THE killer feature for me w/ Tesla.The Ford would be a lot more appealing if you could, without an incredible amount of planning and overnight stays, travel across the US.
It's not that bad anymore.This is what I keep coming back to over and over again. Every time other car manufacturers come out with an EV with pretty decent range and good looks I immediately realize that it isn't practical for trips. The Mach E, Volvo XC40, Audi Q4, Polestar 2 all look interesting but the supercharger network is THE killer feature for me w/ Tesla.
Just doesn't do it for the trips I do. I'm located in Seattle and just did a week long roadtrip in my Model 3 to the Olympics, down the coast to southern Oregon and up through Portland. I plugged all of these different cars into aBetterRoutePlanner (Mach E, Audi E-tron, Volvo XC40, Kia Niro, Hyundai Kona, etc.) and the trip I took isn't possible with any of them. The only cars that can do this trip are Teslas because of the SC network.It's not that bad anymore.
Electrify America alone got 443 stations online and 112 currently under construction and is growing rapidly: Locate a public EV charger | Electrify America
That's about half the amount of Tesla superchargers which stands at 908 locations in the US.
So you are staying in San Diego with the Mach-E and not planning long distance road trips with it and dealing with outrageously expensive, broken CCS DCFC charging stations.We have a Model X (100D); love the driving, hate the mechanics/build (so many issues). We have a deposit on a 3 row Model Y, and also on the Mach-E GT (700 hp!). We are proceeding with the Mach-E for sure as I'd like to diversify our electric car makeup and not put all the eggs in one basket.
We have a Model X (100D); ...We have a deposit on a 3 row Model Y, and also on the Mach-E GT (700 hp!). .
Where is 700HP for Mach E GT published? Not on Ford's site that I can find and Google search results say 459 HP and 612 lb-ftWe have a Model X (100D); love the driving, hate the mechanics/build (so many issues). We have a deposit on a 3 row Model Y, and also on the Mach-E GT (700 hp!). We are proceeding with the Mach-E for sure as I'd like to diversify our electric car makeup and not put all the eggs in one basket.
OP said they posted here and also posted in a Ford forum asking the same thing. OP probably realized they weren't going to get an objective answer here and didn't bother coming back.I find it funny the OP joined TMC 24 June, posted this thread, made 4 quick replies and hasn't been back on TMC since - just stirring the pot....
Well I guess he came to that conclusion pretty quickly as he hasn’t been back - must not have been too committed to an “objective answer” after all. Spent all of a few minutes here apparently...OP said they posted here and also posted in a Ford forum asking the same thing. OP probably realized they weren't going to get an objective answer here and didn't bother coming back.
Where is 700HP for Mach E GT published? Not on Ford's site that I can find and Google search results say 459 HP and 612 lb-ft
https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten...-2/pdf/seo-pdfs/Mustang-Mach-E-Tech-Specs.pdf
And 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT - Specifications and price
We were one of the first to put a deposit on the Mach E. I really was stoked about it, love the look. But after COVID, it became clear the car would not be available until Fall or even later, so we cancelled in late June when our backup MY reservation came up. We love the MY. It has good looks, ours is a quality build, it is super f*ing fast and handles well, and frankly, having owned an EV for 3 years, and had range anxiety galore to the point we never took it on a trip over 150 miles one way, we are glad we got the Tesla. The supercharging network is the icing on the cake. I planned a trip from San Francisco to Tucson using the super chargers. It is 2 hours longer than an ICE car, and since we would spend the night half way, it is a realistic drive using Tesla chargers. I would never ever had considered that drive in my 230 mile range Bolt. Granted, the Mach E has 300 miles range, but zero super chargers in a suitable network spaced to allow long drives. Sure, there are ChadMo and other things, but they frankly suck, imho. So, even though when the Mustang comes out I may wish I had one, we could not be happier with the Y.The Mustang Mach-E arguably has the better brand name. It is also faster and has a better interior!