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Will the Gateway automatically reset if demand exceeds capability?

RKCRLR

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Apr 13, 2020
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If power is lost and the Powerwalls shut down because the load exceeds demand, will they try again after a certain time period? Or will I need to manually need to reset the Gateway after I've removed the excess load?
 

RKCRLR

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Apr 13, 2020
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Garden Valley, CA
Thanks again. My biggest concern with my whole home backup configuration is it doesn't take much of an outage to cause my spa to reset. Then it goes into a full blast startup cycle. If I'm home I can deal with it.
 

RKCRLR

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Apr 13, 2020
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I have another semi-related question. I'll have Ethernet/Wi-Fi available where the Gateway will be located, but only when the grid is up. The access point won't have power when running off the Powerwalls.
My understanding is a modem is included with the Gateway. I'm assuming the Gateway will fall back to the modem if internet is lost. What carrier(s) does Tesla use? Verizon is the only carrier that covers my location. And, I'm assuming there is no charge for this service, correct?
One thing important to me is to get a timely notification if the grid goes down. Will falling back to the modem delay my reception of an alert notifying me that my house is running off the Powerwalls?
Thanks
 

RKCRLR

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Apr 13, 2020
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My system is complicated. The short story is the branch that powers the access point into won't be backed up. If there is a significant reason that it should be connected to my home intranet during a power outage I can spring to have a separate circuit installed installed to power the access point. I also have a separate CAT-5 cable that I may be able to dedicate to the Gateway but there are some complications with that also.
 

BrettS

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Mar 28, 2017
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Maybe it’s just me, but in my house the WiFi would be one of the most critical loads.

But hey, if you can do without it then it’s my understanding that the gateway will use its own modem to connect.
 

JPP

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Even if your house has Powerwall power and your network (wired or WiFi or mesh etc) is up and running, your ISP will probably go down after a variable period of time. Where I live the nearby Xfinity/Comcast 'node' has about 1-3 hours of backup power. Once that goes down, no internet (or VoIP phone or TV).

I have my Gateway connected both to my wired Gigabit ethernet network and to my mesh/WiFi network, and the gateway also has cell connectivity (all 3).

But also remember that most cell towers have battery backup and during a prolonged neighborhood/regional power outage, they too will go down after some period of time.

Ask me how I know....NoCA with several Public Safety Power Shutoffs last year (one lasting 5 days).

So after one full day into PSPS where I live, no Comcast/Xfinity service, so no internet or VoIP phone or TV, and no cell service. So I elected to pay $$ to install HughesNet satellite internet as a backup to have limited internet (for e-mail, limited VoIP).
 

jboy210

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Dec 2, 2016
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Any way to put the pump on a non backed up circuit or otherwise isolate it in the event of an outage. I assume it is not critical that a spa pump runs.
 
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BrettS

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Mar 28, 2017
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Orlando, FL
Even if your house has Powerwall power and your network (wired or WiFi or mesh etc) is up and running, your ISP will probably go down after a variable period of time. Where I live the nearby Xfinity/Comcast 'node' has about 1-3 hours of backup power. Once that goes down, no internet (or VoIP phone or TV).

I think it really depends on where the outage is. It was kinda funny... after hurricane matthew I lost power for more than three days, but my home internet and cell service stayed up the whole time.

Then a year or two later hurricane irma came through and that time my power stayed on, but my home internet from spectrum as well as my cell phone service from AT&T were both down for about two days and then up and down for another week after that. I finally went out and got a hotspot device from Verizon since they still had service.
 

RKCRLR

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Apr 13, 2020
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Garden Valley, CA
Even if your house has Powerwall power and your network (wired or WiFi or mesh etc) is up and running, your ISP will probably go down after a variable period of time. Where I live the nearby Xfinity/Comcast 'node' has about 1-3 hours of backup power. Once that goes down, no internet (or VoIP phone or TV).

I have my Gateway connected both to my wired Gigabit ethernet network and to my mesh/WiFi network, and the gateway also has cell connectivity (all 3).

But also remember that most cell towers have battery backup and during a prolonged neighborhood/regional power outage, they too will go down after some period of time.

Ask me how I know....NoCA with several Public Safety Power Shutoffs last year (one lasting 5 days).

So after one full day into PSPS where I live, no Comcast/Xfinity service, so no internet or VoIP phone or TV, and no cell service. So I elected to pay $$ to install HughesNet satellite internet as a backup to have limited internet (for e-mail, limited VoIP).
I have satellite internet (the only thing available to me unfortunately) so I have internet during a power outage (as long as the dish and modem have power).

My Verizon tower uses a backup generator during a power outage and they keep it running. Strange thing is, my analog landline goes down when the power goes out because it goes through a digital data center that gets shut down.

I was out of power for nearly 2 weeks once last year due to PSPSs. The need to inspect the power lines after a shutdown to make sure they they don't start a fire when they power them back up. The prioritize the inspections based on how many people will benefit. I live in a rural area and we are usually the last to get power back. We got a second shutdown before they restored power from the prior shutdown.
 

RKCRLR

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Apr 13, 2020
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Any way to put the pump on a non backed up circuit or otherwise isolate it in the event of an outage. I assume it is not critical that a spa pump runs.
Not one that will automatically shut down automatically when the grid goes down (too far from the Gateway - expensive to run the wire). I can manually turn off the breaker if I'm home and know the grid is down.
 

RKCRLR

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Apr 13, 2020
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Garden Valley, CA
Another question, can it be remotely shutdown? I.e., if I'm away from home, left high draw items running, and am notified of a power outage, can I shut the Powerwalls down to save storage?
Thanks
 

Ampster

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Oct 5, 2012
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Kenwood, California
As long as it has an Internet connection to receive your request. I don't know the exact shutdown procedure. It may only be a mode change. Others with that experience or knowledge will have to clarify.
 

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