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Of course it authenticates connected cars. Not everybody has paid for SC access, and as it stands they check the plugged in vehicles to determine if it's allowed to charge. I should try that, but I assume that nothing will happen if I plug mine in. Also, it's my understanding that if I want to enable SC on my Model S, I can plug into a SC and call Tesla from the car and give them a credit card and they'll turn it on right there.This assumes the superchargers authenticate cars that plug in, which has been the going assumption for some time, and is required for a billing system to be viable.
Of course it authenticates connected cars. Not everybody has paid for SC access, and as it stands they check the plugged in vehicles to determine if it's allowed to charge. I should try that, but I assume that nothing will happen if I plug mine in. Also, it's my understanding that if I want to enable SC on my Model S, I can plug into a SC and call Tesla from the car and give them a credit card and they'll turn it on right there.
It not only authenticates the car, Tesla is also keeping statistics on each car that plugs in and where they plug in. They are also matching that with your address to see if you're supercharging close to home, and they have sent letters to those who use them too much close to their home, reminding them they are for long distance travel only...
Supercharging letter from Tesla 8-13-2015
This assumes the superchargers authenticate cars that plug in, which has been the going assumption for some time, and is required for a billing system to be viable.
It helps them build a network that's good enough for their Model S and soon Model X sold. It's not big enough for half a million Model 3 cars.pay as you go is the only way to go. The auto is so personal and used in so many different ways. I want to use it for four months out of the year and when I'm home for the summer months I don't need it. The way tesla has it now helps them build the system. Let us new owners from the model 3 on pay for the installation of card payments, and ongoing supper chargers and paying up front.
It doesn't matter what the budget is called. In the end the money has to come from car sales. And I doubt Tesla will be able to go without marketing forever.Of course it would be viable. They don't pay for supercharger construction from those funds and right now they charge nothing. If I remember correctly supercharger construction is part of the marketing budget.
11+ car wait at Tejon Ranch AVOID IF YOU CAN!!!!!!!!
That's exactly the reason I think just a subscription based system does not work in the near future. Most people don't need it every day, but then you will have occasions like Christmas where everyone travels and visits family.
Perhaps they could do a pre-pay option. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way but I didn't feel like reading through 9 pages.
I don't blame you, but to save the time - for the supercharger system to be successful, people need to be able to drive up and get a spot without waiting. The biggest problem is ensuring there is enough capacity at peak time (Friday nights/Sunday nights/holiday weekends etc). Someone who supercharges four times a year on Friday nights before long weekends, actually causes more of a demand on the network than someone who supercharges every Wednesday afternoon. This is why the "per session"/"per minute"/"per kWh" options are unlikely to be sustainable. Tesla needs the upfront revenue to build out the network to scale to the number of supercharger-enabled vehicles on the road.
Note - This has never been stated officially by Tesla, but speculated by members of this forum.
With regards to Super Charging, if they don't make it compulsory by rolling it into the MSRP, I would hope that there could always be an ala carte option for very casual use once or twice a year. $2k would be a steep price as an option for casual use and would price some people out of it. Perhaps they could do a pre-pay option.
This is not a sustainable option. Imagine if you could pre-pay for the fire department or police... Um, I'll just pay for one fire in advance, here's my $100. Saw an article on this subject recently where someone in the lower states had the option to not pay for fire department and when his house was on fire, offered to pay the $100 yearly fee right there and then, the fire marshal told him that if everyone did that, there'd be no fire department.
<RANT>The fact not paying for fire department was even an option strikes me as completely nonsensical and ridiculous, but of course there are always those that complain about the cost of government services, uh. </>
Pay up front makes sense as it gives Tesla the money to build and maintain infrastructure.
Well how the heck is any DC charging infrastructure getting built then since it is pretty much all pay as you go?
I fail to see the connection between pre-paying for Super Charger use and the Fire Department
Selling electrons for EVs is simply a terrible, terrible business model
And it doesn't help that Blink charger are often, well, on the blink.Car Charging Group... even after buying the Blink charging network for ~1% of its actual cost... still can't turn a profit let alone fund additional infrastructure. Selling electrons for EVs is simply a terrible, terrible business model.
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It could, but it would totally kill sales for the Model 3 because it will appear far more expensive to run than a gas car. Those who purchase a Model 3 are far more concerned with economy than those who purchased an S or X.Am I saying .15 a kWh? No, but tell me $30-40 a pay per use charge up would not contribute to the infrastructure?