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Bumping this as I too am wondering if this is real. I signed up for the service plan over two months ago and have received nothing in response, other than a confirmation of their receipt of my $2000. I've sent email and opened inquiry tickets - no response.

Can you illustrate what the BMD looks like? Is it hidden from view once installed?

I have a July '14 S85 that needed a new driver's seat early last year due to a faulty seat cushion sensor (the car wouldn't shut down after getting out because the seat believed someone was still in it.) It took 4 1/2 months to get the seat. My patience was long exhausted by the time the new...

Oh my Lord, not this whole argument again... The mantra of the moochers and freeloaders has always been "free for life!!" means that Tesla can never impose any restrictions whatever on the service. As a lawyer of 35 years I'd wager a lot of money that they're wrong and any court challenge would...

The problem is most likely the seat sensor - I know because my car has had the same problem, manifesting exactly as you've described. At first the SC could not replicate the problem (even though it would sometimes malfunction for me several times a day) but they did suspect the sensor. When I...

Love the MX, and found the OP's demo video fascinating. But I can't help but fixate on the apparent WH/M consumption for towing a 4800lb boat, a load within permissible limits, in fairly idyllic conditions in Florida. Range-wise it seems it turns the MX into a Nissan Leaf. How practical can this...

There was a silver Model X at the Van Nuys SC this morning being readied for delivery.

I have a S85 that was delivered 8/14, and now has a defective driver's seat that requires replacement. My Service Center has confirmed the problem and ordered the replacement seat, originally predicting a three-week delivery time. That has now stretched to 5 weeks, and the latest word from the...

This is a silly discussion, IMO. "Failure" v. Breakdown", or whatever else we may choose to call it, misses the point entirely. My DU was replaced (for the increasing level of the milling noise) because Tesla found that it was "defective", either in materials or workmanship, because that's what...

IMO, one of the smartest things Tesla could do here is immediately stop marketing this as "Auto Pilot" (which it isn't) and rebrand it as "Driver Assist" (which it is.) Auto Pilot conveys the wrong message about functionality. Cars don't have pilots, they have drivers. Auto Pilot, which is...

True, and plenty of people will also point to that pesky thing known as the US Constitution, that enumerates Rights as to guns that we don't have in any way, shape or form with respect to automobiles. The ownership and use of our cars (at least on the public roads) can be "infringed" pretty much...

I got a factory-new Rev Q yesterday, so if they're going in alphabetical order...

Mine didn't require any particular approvals that I'm aware of. I went by the SC on my way to work and went for a drive with the shop foreman. After about 100 yards on the street he nodded his head and said "yeah, that's the DU, not a sound we like to hear...", or something fairly close to that...

Had my drive unit replaced yesterday. Vin 45XXX, MS85 delivered 7/2014. 19517 miles at the time of the replacement. Part No. 1002633-00-Q. My car had developed the "milling" sound beginning at around 16000 miles, and it got progressively worse. It was very loud yesterday morning when I went in...

So not true. I get that in ordinary driving conditions, when making an evasive driving maneuver, or a crash of the type the Insurance Institute tests for, the car is very unlikely to roll over. But if it's driven off the road and over and down a steep embankment, it can most certainly roll over...

I agree, and the absence of any mention of these things makes last night's event not a true product "launch" at all, IMO. Not a whole lot more than another prototype reveal really, except that 5 people got to be driven off the stage in cars that supposedly had been delivered to them. I can't...

My '14 S85 with 18,500 miles has developed the noise. It sounds like an electrical "buzzing" noise when power is applied during acceleration, and rises as the speed increases. It's getting louder and is occurring now over a longer power/speed band. It goes silent when I ease up on the...

S85, delivered 7/2014 18,100 Miles 90% charge = 236 miles

+1. IMO this is a point that has been continually ignored by many throughout this long, arduous discussion. "Free" speaks to one, and only one, thing: the price of an item or service. So many have continually beat the drum of "free for life, free for life!" and interpreted that, within their own...

Really? I know and work with a Model S owner who has boasted that he hasn't plugged into his home connector once since the Redondo Beach Supercharger opened. He lives near it (about 8 miles) and has a 56 mile daily round-trip commute to work. He uses the SC as his daily charger, usually on his...

For what it's worth, I had my car serviced on June 25 at the Van Nuys Service Center, and my service order includes "Performed ride height calibration and four wheel alignment."

I think Mr. Musk needs to be confronted with this and respectfully asked to give a meaningful (preferably yes or no) response. Is it bad for my battery or not? If so, how bad? I just returned from a week-long trip where I supercharged eight times in 100+ degree temperatures. Last night in my...

I get it. No one reading the 2014 announcement would construe it as describing long distance travel (even though it only mentions a 500 mile trip) because the words "long-distance" aren't present. :confused: And now saying "long-distance" is a new qualification on the message. Like I said, it's...

Do you contend that Tesla's announcement of a SC that only mentions driving from Los Angeles, California to Tucson, Arizona for free, for life is "not the same message" as one that says you can drive "long-distance, for free for life"? Guess I have to disagree with you there.

Well... here's one in my email inbox from March 21, 2014, announcing Buckeye, Ariz. "The Buckeye Supercharger adds an additional charging option for our owners who travel between Southern California and the Phoenix area. It is part of a series of Superchargers that will more densely cover travel...

This may have already been reported here (apologies if so) but today I received my email about the opening of the San Diego SC, which said "We are excited to announce that the San Diego Supercharger Station is now open. New Supercharger Stations open every week, enabling more options for free...

I could be wrong, but I don't think that Tesla considers 115 degrees F to be a risk for the battery, even an all-day soak at that temperature. The battery warranty cautions against leaving it in conditions exceeding 140F for more than 24 hours. Other than that I think that typical AZ summer...

Context matters. The "free for the life of the car" snippet that constantly gets quoted is actually part of an answer to a question on the SC FAQ page about how much does it cost to use the SC. Answer: nothing, free for life. It says nothing whatsoever about how often or for what purposes one...

IMO, this has always been the clearly stated use case for the Superchargers, and one need only read the various text on the Tesla website pertaining to the SC to see it. There have always been, and there always will be, people who will take unfair advantage of a good thing, and will go to great...

...And you are isolating the answer completely from the context of the question it relates to in order to support your predetermined conclusion. The question has nothing to do with, and provides no information on, the question of local supercharging to save a few pennies. The question in context...

Being thorough and listing numerous references with citations to bolster one's point is somehow proof that the point is unfounded? Wherever you went to school, I suggest you ask for your money back.

Perhaps, but it almost certainly works better for navigation than does the system Tesla has included in our cars. My Model S nav system compares very poorly to the functionality that my Chevy Volt had.

The title of this thread makes me cringe.

I have no doubt at all that you are quite capable of knowing what it's like to be twelve.

No but it's really, indefensibly, bad business from a customer satisfaction perspective. Selling two people the same car for the same price, and delivering one a better, more valuable car with no choice given to nor input sought from the one who got shorted. This isn't the first time Tesla has...

I think Tesla has us all snookered on this one. As has been pointed out, the "hardware upgrade" is not contained within the extended service contract at all. More importantly perhaps is that the operative phrase on the web page is "necessary" hardware upgrades, and nowhere is there any...

Tesla lawyers, to the Tesla engineers: "By the way, you guys do know that there's no way in hell we'll allow you to configure the ACC to permit people to drive on someone's arse at highway speeds, for the purpose of "drafting", right?"

My three-week old S85 with 1200 miles makes that same noise, especially when shutting down. If it's because the fan bearings have gone bad, I'd have to say they started out that way.

I respectfully disagree. The word "fully" means that starting in the summer the technology will no longer be a beta trial, but will then be a steady-state deployment ("beta" is limited release, "fully" is...well, full release.) What is actually missing is the word "all", as in all customers...

With no disrespect, if Elon Musk had come to your home, sat at your kitchen table and made verbal promises in exchange for legal consideration that you then gave, maybe, just maybe there could be a verbal contract in there somewhere. Sales "puffery" and marketing rhetoric at a press event will...

From the Tesla Motor Vehicle Purchase Agreement: “Vehicle Design. We reserve the right to change the design of any new vehicle, chassis, accessories, or parts at any time, without notice and without obligation to make the same or similar change upon the Vehicle, chassis, accessories or parts...

Current Volt owner here, with a MS85 on order. Of the two photos posted above, the top one is of a Volt that was destroyed by a collision while sitting unoccupied. The second photo is of a crash that occurred when the car was struck causing it to roll down an embankment and overturn several...

Not necessarily. The Chevy Volt was voted European Car of the Year in March 2012 (the same year it took Motor Trend Car of the Year, Automobile Magazine's Car of the Year, and North American Car of the Year honors.) The EU judges noted that the car was an "engineering marvel" and a "true...