Suggest you re-read first page of the wall connector link you posted for a good 'brake down'with regards to maximum amps for a mid range battery.
Good on @brkaus for already catching this, but it can't be mentioned enough. That is a blatant violation of electric code. You are never allowed more than a 50A breaker for a 50A outlet type.
I have found it interesting when people are talking about doing a 14-50 outlet at first but leaving the possibility of going to a wall connector later, and some people here are giving recommendations to go way over on the wiring size, like for a 90 or 100A circuit to allow for future proofing. The problem they seem to not have considered is that the lugs on most brands of 14-50 outlets just can't take 3 gauge or 2 gauge wire. They usually have a maximum of 6 gauge thickness, since 8 or 6 gauge is what you use for 40 or 50 amp circuits that a 14-50 outlet would be on. So oversizing the wire by a lot creates the need for other intermediate connections, like a sub-panel or junction box or Polaris connectors to adapt the wire size down to what the outlet can accept.
JetFalcon, those questions are for u to answer. I can recommend though if wire run from the box to the outlet is >75' have them use 6 gauge instead of 8. The wall charger needs a 60Amp circuit while the NEMA 14-50R needs a 50A circuit. If i ever want to spend the added $500 for the wall charger all i'll need to do put 60A circuit breaker in and install the wall charger. The 6 gauge wire can accommodate the extra 10A. More sure you check your local codes by the way.
I dislike this kind of misinformation. The wall connector is a variable, selectable device. It doesn't "need" one specific level of circuit. It can be selected to operate on many different levels, from 15A to 100A circuits. So if you have a 14-50 outlet, and you just want to swap to the wall connector because it looks more awesome, you can just swap it on there, on the existing 50A circuit. And for that matter, the 14-50 outlet is allowed to be on a 40A circuit, because of an exception in NEC since there is no 40A outlet type.
I'm a little confused about why you refer to one as a 40a outlet and the other as a 50a outlet. It is possible to do that, but I don't necessarily get why you would. I would generally just do them both as full 50A kind. I guess if you're going to use one with the mobile charge cable, that could only use up 32A, and the plug in wall connector can draw 40A, so that would make sense if that's how you're planning to use them. (The 32 out of 40 and 40 out of 50 is for the 80% usage requirement.)
Well, I wouldn't go for that. For outdoor installations, I would recommend a wall connector because it's meant to be weather tolerant and has a water-resistant rated enclosure. If you do decide to move, you can take the wall connector off and put an outlet on it then.
Don't you dare!
That's an obvious and blatant violation of NEC, so you shouldn't even bring up that idea. 14-50 outlets are allowed to be on either 50A or 40A circuits (breakers & wiring).I thought that the the new(now obsoleted) 14-50 Tesla HPWC is rated to be weather tolerant and water resistant rated enclosure.
Someone mentioned it here, but NEC is for infrastructure and HPWC are clearly listed as appliances, not trying to be argumentative.Don't you dare!
I'm not getting what aspect you're talking about that is 50a/60a. If you're talking about the outlets, there is no 60a part of any of this.
Oooohhh, that's right, I forgot that you were talking about the pluggable wall connectors. I'm sorry. I was still thinking of plugging in a mobile connector outside that would be plugged and unplugged often, and that's something I wouldn't recommend. Yeah, the wall connectors are still water tight, so you weren't tricked. I just forgot that part of your install.
Exactly, but let's talk through this. Breaker --> wiring --> outlet
