19" Turbine Wheel Solution

[Hybris]

yes and the offset is different with the luganos? future warranty issue?

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

FYI, a parallel thread about the potential "softness" of the Luganos:

Four Rial Lugano 19 wheels bent in two weeks - are they up to the task?

 

[yobigd20]

Reviving this thread to point to TSportline's new 19" Turbine wheels: T Sportline 19 TST Wheels For Sale Tesla Model S

 

[JakeP]

Wow. Forged or cast? Offset specs?

 

[JakeP]

How soon can I order a set on Tirerack???

 

[SwedishAdvocate]

How soon can I order a set on Tirerack???

You can order here:

T Sportline 19 TST Wheels For Sale Tesla Model S

and here:

T Sportline 19 TST Wheels For Sale Tesla Model S

 

[swegman]

Has anyone actually seen these wheels? How is the quality compared to the 21 inch Tesla wheels?

 

[TSportline]

How soon can I order a set on Tirerack???

Thank you for your inquiry. Tirerack will not be selling our wheels.

 

[kevincwelch]

Here's a question, and it's a serious one since I was considering a second set of Rial Lugano wheels.

At $239 per wheel, the Luganos come in $500 less than the Tsportline turbine wheels. Other than the softness (which I have not experienced) that had been ascribed to the Luganos and the more direct match to the 21 inch OEMs, what makes your turbine wheels you are offering better (in terms of construction) and how are they different? They certainly are very attractive, and the introduction of your turbine wheels has made me reconsider the Luganos.

 

[tchaimd]

Here's a question, and it's a serious one since I was considering a second set of Rial Lugano wheels.

At $239 per wheel, the Luganos come in $500 less than the Tsportline turbine wheels. Other than the softness (which I have not experienced) that had been ascribed to the Luganos and the more direct match to the 21 inch OEMs, what makes your turbine wheels you are offering better (in terms of construction) and how are they different? They certainly are very attractive, and the introduction of your turbine wheels has made me reconsider the Luganos.

I am also very interested in learning more about these wheels. I recently purchased the gunmetal Rial Luganos with TPMS sensors and Michelin Primacy MXM4 tires from TireRack and haven't put them on the car yet. I am debating now on purchasing these new TST wheels (once more information and pictures are available) and selling the Luganos.

 

[TSportline]

Here's a question, and it's a serious one since I was considering a second set of Rial Lugano wheels.

At $239 per wheel, the Luganos come in $500 less than the Tsportline turbine wheels. Other than the softness (which I have not experienced) that had been ascribed to the Luganos and the more direct match to the 21 inch OEMs, what makes your turbine wheels you are offering better (in terms of construction) and how are they different? They certainly are very attractive, and the introduction of your turbine wheels has made me reconsider the Luganos.

Hi Kevin,

Thank you for considering the T Sportlline Model TST wheel.

Our wheels are low pressure casted. We are unaware of what method of construction Rial uses for their cast wheels. More importantly what sets us apart from Rial is that our wheel is specifically engineered for the Model S. Being a Tesla specific tuning brand, we took into consideration building a wheel that appealed to Model S owners in design but also in function.

Specifically:
Our wheel has a max load of 790kg. This translates into 6,952lbs of load on 4 wheels. We estimate the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of the Model S is about 5,800lbs. Therefore we gave ourselves a 20% padding in the load rating. This is quite standard in wheel manufacturing.
When installing, our wheel uses the Tesla factoy lug nuts. No need for aftermarket lug nuts.
Your factory Tesla center cap also fits on our wheel.
From an aesthetic standpoint, our TST simply has more detail than the Tesla 21". Our spokes have more detail and the surface area around the lug nut holes is larger.
No one else in the aftermarket manufactures a Model S specific wheel.

The Rial Luganos weren't made specifically for the Model S. The Lugano design was out before the Model S. They simply happen to have a 5x120 bolt pattern, an offset which the Model S can accept and a 72.6mm bore which tells us they were intended for BMWs. 19" aftermarket wheels on BMWs are commonly found on the 3 and 5 series. The gross weight of a BMW 550 V8 is 4971lbs, 14% lighter than a Model S. We've also done our own digging and can't find the load rating on a 19x8.5" Lugano. Nevertheless, our background in the wheel industry tells us the Lugano wasn't made to hold the weight of a model S.

PS:
Bending is a common occurrence with potholes and other road hazards. It happens even to the best manufactured wheels. We've seen the Rials bend, and we have multiple factory 19" Tesla wheels in our facility that are also bent. Rest assured, the TST is on par if not better constructed than a 19" factory Tesla wheel.

 

[yobigd20]

Hi Kevin,

Thank you for considering the T Sportlline Model TST wheel.

Our wheels are low pressure casted. We are unaware of what method of construction Rial uses for their cast wheels. More importantly what sets us apart from Rial is that our wheel is specifically engineered for the Model S. Being a Tesla specific tuning brand, we took into consideration building a wheel that appealed to Model S owners in design but also in function.

Specifically:
Our wheel has a max load of 790kg. This translates into 6,952lbs of load on 4 wheels. We estimate the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of the Model S is about 5,800lbs. Therefore we gave ourselves a 20% padding in the load rating. This is quite standard in wheel manufacturing.
When installing, our wheel uses the Tesla factoy lug nuts. No need for aftermarket lug nuts.
Your factory Tesla center cap also fits on our wheel.
From an aesthetic standpoint, our TST simply has more detail than the Tesla 21". Our spokes have more detail and the surface area around the lug nut holes is larger.
No one else in the aftermarket manufactures a Model S specific wheel.

The Rial Luganos weren't made specifically for the Model S. The Lugano design was out before the Model S. They simply happen to have a 5x120 bolt pattern, an offset which the Model S can accept and a 72.6mm bore which tells us they were intended for BMWs. 19" aftermarket wheels on BMWs are commonly found on the 3 and 5 series. The gross weight of a BMW 550 V8 is 4971lbs, 14% lighter than a Model S. We've also done our own digging and can't find the load rating on a 19x8.5" Lugano. Nevertheless, our background in the wheel industry tells us the Lugano wasn't made to hold the weight of a model S.

PS:
Bending is a common occurrence with potholes and other road hazards. It happens even to the best manufactured wheels. We've seen the Rials bend, and we have multiple factory 19" Tesla wheels in our facility that are also bent. Rest assured, the TST is on par if not better constructed than a 19" factory Tesla wheel.

hmm even though I want 20s you may have swayed me. now I just need to see some high res pics of these babies mounted on an MS before I make my decision what color...

 

[kevincwelch]

Hey, thank you very much for that useful information. It seems as though you guys put a lot of thought and work into creating a wheel that is both solid and appealing . You definitely have made me reconsider my purchase.

Another Q: can you tell me a little bit about how you have tested these wheels?

 

[JakeP]

And you have confirmed and validated my ordering a set of TSportline TST wheels in Grey! How soon can I start asking whether they have shipped yet? Should I at least wait until April 14th??? Thank you for for making a product that so many of us have been waiting for...in my case, since before my Model S even arrived!

 

[mathur]

Hi Tsportline,

Would you ship these wheels to Canada and what would be the cost of shipping?

Thanks...

Arun

 

[swegman]

Anyone have pictures of the wheels in gray? Is it the same as the Tesla gray, so that it goes with the Tesla center caps?

 

[mknox]

Well, too late for me to look at the T Sportline wheels. My Luganos are back from the tire shop with my summers on just waiting for Spring to get serious!

 

[mnx]

I switched out my winters 1 week ago for the OEM goodyears as I had a lot of driving to do last week. (>1000km) No regrets!

Looks like you'll be good to go after tomorrow.

Well, too late for me to look at the T Sportline wheels. My Luganos are back from the tire shop with my summers on just waiting for Spring to get serious!

 

[doc@tirerack]

The Rial Luganos weren't made specifically for the Model S. The Lugano design was out before the Model S. They simply happen to have a 5x120 bolt pattern, an offset which the Model S can accept and a 72.6mm bore which tells us they were intended for BMWs. 19" aftermarket wheels on BMWs are commonly found on the 3 and 5 series. The gross weight of a BMW 550 V8 is 4971lbs, 14% lighter than a Model S. We've also done our own digging and can't find the load rating on a 19x8.5" Lugano. Nevertheless, our background in the wheel industry tells us the Lugano wasn't made to hold the weight of a model S.

PS:
Bending is a common occurrence with potholes and other road hazards. It happens even to the best manufactured wheels. We've seen the Rials bend, and we have multiple factory 19" Tesla wheels in our facility that are also bent. Rest assured, the TST is on par if not better constructed than a 19" factory Tesla wheel.

The max load capacity on our 19x8.5" Lugano is 1,653 lbs. for reference. The last Model S we inspected had Gross Axle weight ratings of 2,776 lbs for the front axle and 3,131 lbs. for the rear axle, so GVW "estimates" aside the Lugano can handle the Model S just fine. Anyone with a background in the wheel industry would know the consequences of selling a wheel that did not have enough load capacity for the intended application, so stating that the Lugano can't carry the weight of the Model S (without knowing the actual max load capacity) is merely self serving. While the Lugano was originally designed for BMW, we have had Rial change the casting of the wheel to make it hubcentric for Tesla long ago.

Rial has had the Lugano tested and approved by TUV for use in Germany, and the wheels are made in a plant in Poland that is also manufacturing OE wheels for VW, Audi and Mercedes using the same low pressure casting methods.

Thanks for letting me contribute to the discussion, as friendly competition is a good thing (as long as all the facts are available).

 

[kevincwelch]

That's exactly why I asked about the testing for these 19 inch turbine dealies.