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2015 vs 2016 - 90D Range?
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ahkahn
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Ketchups
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My JAN 2017 90D range was 294 miles at 10K (almost 2 years of ownership). My 2015 85D with 45K miles on it was 260 (3 years). So it appears the newer cell design in the 90D is lasting much better than my old 85D.
S85D at 45K
S90D at 10K
S85D at 45K
S90D at 10K
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murphyS90D
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Yes. The original 90D had an EPA rating of 288 miles. Later versions, probably after the refresh, have an EPA rating of 294 miles.
My January 2016 90D is now at 281 miles.
Wow sounds like my 2015 is in the shorter stick since today, my 90% range shows 234. That means at 100% I’m at about 264. I’m quite a bit away from it’s normal rating. Seems like there is some really bad degradation in the last 3 years.
Is there something Tesla does about tHat being under warranty?
wesley888
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That's very interesting the the 90D 90% numbers are all over the place from everyone here. Mine is a late 2016 (AP2 HW just came out) and the 90% was 264 miles when I first got it. Now it's about 258. It has about 20K miles on it.
murphyS90D
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My 04/17 built facelift AP2 90D gets 245miles at 90% (EU Typical, not US rated but it should be very similar) and 271 miles at 100%.
Although this should be one of the better off third gen 90 packs old owner trickle charged to 100% every day. So this is good with that kind of abuse. I bought it just recently at 25k miles and only drove it 3k miles yet.
Although this should be one of the better off third gen 90 packs old owner trickle charged to 100% every day. So this is good with that kind of abuse. I bought it just recently at 25k miles and only drove it 3k miles yet.
Look like EPA increased the range from 2015 to 2016 90D. In real life was there a difference between 2015 and 2016 models like more efficient motor or inverter to get this, or was it how EPA testing was done.
You can see details on EPA range difference here?
Official EPA Ratings For Refreshed Tesla Model S - 90D Range Is 303.2 Miles Highway
Also here
Tesla Model S Range Update: Now Up To 294 Miles
What is the real truth behind this?
You can see details on EPA range difference here?
Official EPA Ratings For Refreshed Tesla Model S - 90D Range Is 303.2 Miles Highway
Also here
Tesla Model S Range Update: Now Up To 294 Miles
What is the real truth behind this?
murphyS90D
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A 2015 90D had an advertised range of 288. The 294 didn't happen until sometime in 2016. My January 2016 build says 288.
Something is definitely weird with the 90's. I know that its tough to compare range based on driving factors and climate and whatever, but it just doesn't seem right.
Nov 15 90d ~ 235 miles @90%
July 16 p90dl ~ 232 miles @90% (v3 battery)
Both have about 40k miles on them. The 90d was when they were charging the $3k for the upgrade from 85. The conspiracy theorist in me speculates that I paid 3k for the badge on the back. (no, not really)
It just doesn't make sense that the p90d and the 90d get about the same range, so that leads me to believe that something shady happened with the early 90 batteries. Its very rare that I go to 100%, but I think both were in the high 250's or low 260's at 100%, certainly not close to 290. Don't worry, service assures me everything is ok.
Nov 15 90d ~ 235 miles @90%
July 16 p90dl ~ 232 miles @90% (v3 battery)
Both have about 40k miles on them. The 90d was when they were charging the $3k for the upgrade from 85. The conspiracy theorist in me speculates that I paid 3k for the badge on the back. (no, not really)
It just doesn't make sense that the p90d and the 90d get about the same range, so that leads me to believe that something shady happened with the early 90 batteries. Its very rare that I go to 100%, but I think both were in the high 250's or low 260's at 100%, certainly not close to 290. Don't worry, service assures me everything is ok.
ahkahn
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I'm in the same boat. My 2017 90D definitely registered 294 when it was new, but it's now around 274 (100%) @ 50,000 miles, and Tesla Service says nothing is wrong with it....
That sucks.
Let me share a little tool, where you can look up what Tesla was advertising as the real range when you configured/bought your car.
Web.archive.org
You can adjust the date to see the advertised range at a particular month: Here is Feb 2016:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160222064027/https://www.teslamotors.com/models/design?source=homepage
enjoy.
Web.archive.org
You can adjust the date to see the advertised range at a particular month: Here is Feb 2016:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160222064027/https://www.teslamotors.com/models/design?source=homepage
enjoy.
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