downtrend and uptrend convergence tomorrow + bull flag + green premarket (so far)... make it so... $258+... or bust.
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downtrend and uptrend convergence tomorrow + bull flag + green premarket (so far)... make it so... $258+... or bust.
You should post your chart in the 'market section' as it will get lost here with all the nutrition and constitutional discussion.
sundaymorning
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Even if this was true, for every cancellation from a Trump protestor, Elon gains a sale from a Trump supporter. Nice try shorts.. feeling some pain lately?
You should try even bigger fonts and highlighting of some sort. This is not standing out.
CALGARYARSENAL
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mmd
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Tesla buyers are mostly liberal types with an awareness of environment. Most of Tesla's sales are in California (> 40%) which is a massively democratic state, not in the rust belts where Trump got his electorral votes (assuming no role played by Putin
). How many electric cars do we see in the Trump states? I think, the Model 3 reservation holders are from similar demographics as Model S buyers, except less money in their pocket.That said, it would be really interesting if someone starts a poll in the Model 3 thread to gauge this. Tesla won't release any numbers about this.
Mike Smith
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"At least five people who had paid deposits to reserve Model 3s have canceled their orders over Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk’s decision to work with President Trump by sitting on two of his advisory groups."
AT LEAST five. Dear god it's all falling apart.
erthquake
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Shorts sure sound like they're getting desperate. Maybe a squeeze is coming after all.
3Victoria
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ah, that's better. Now, what were you saying?
The complete quote regarding the 150GWh output (11:56) is ''... as we get couple years later past 2020 or thereabouts, when the factory fully built out...". So I do not believe that the 150GWh production capacity is tied to 2020 the way you interpret it. This is an intentionally vague timeframe, hence it was not explicitly put onto the slide (snap shot below). My takeaway is that it is going to happen after 2020.
The interesting part that contradicts to the Bloomberg article in my original post is that 50GWh/500K cars/year, which at average 70kWh/car implies 15GWh for battery storage is tied to 2018, not 2020.
CALGARYARSENAL
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I feel it ladies and gentlemen. The fun begins in the am. Congrats on staying long and riding out the negativity. GLTA.
RobStark
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Thumper
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For the record, I have never read the Drudge Report whether behind the wheel or not.
I have no knowledge about the number of pumps per car and per cost. That's why I'm throwing this out there, amidst fermented orange food
To gently go into this highly politicized good night, I wanted to look around for greater wisdom than I typically find in the daily discourse that swirls around us, an alternative for the news outlets, internet, opinion pages and debates on facts, alt-facts and fake news. For those that have unplugged - many long ago, a few words from Hank Dave Thoreau -(As most men with 3 names, NASCAR driver, country music legend and reformed Frenchman.)
“Unjust laws exist; shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once? Men generally, under such a government as this, think that they ought to wait until they have persuaded the majority to alter them. They think that, if they should resist, the remedy would be worse than the evil. But it is the fault of the government itself that the remedy is worse than the evil. It makes it worse. Why is it not more apt to anticipate and provide for reform? Why does it not cherish its wise minority? Why does it cry and resist before it is hurt? Why does it not encourage its citizens to be on the alert to point out its faults, and do better than it would have them?”
― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays
And
“I wish my countrymen to consider, that whatever the human law may be, neither an individual nor a nation can ever commit the least act of injustice against the obscurest individual, without having to pay the penalty for it. A government which deliberately enacts injustice, and persists in it, will at length ever become the laughing-stock of the world.”
― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays
Henry David, paraphrased - Karma is a bitch. As a Scofflaw I appreciate Disobedience. Good night now, .
“Unjust laws exist; shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once? Men generally, under such a government as this, think that they ought to wait until they have persuaded the majority to alter them. They think that, if they should resist, the remedy would be worse than the evil. But it is the fault of the government itself that the remedy is worse than the evil. It makes it worse. Why is it not more apt to anticipate and provide for reform? Why does it not cherish its wise minority? Why does it cry and resist before it is hurt? Why does it not encourage its citizens to be on the alert to point out its faults, and do better than it would have them?”
― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays
And
“I wish my countrymen to consider, that whatever the human law may be, neither an individual nor a nation can ever commit the least act of injustice against the obscurest individual, without having to pay the penalty for it. A government which deliberately enacts injustice, and persists in it, will at length ever become the laughing-stock of the world.”
― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays
Henry David, paraphrased - Karma is a bitch. As a Scofflaw I appreciate Disobedience. Good night now, .
I have no knowledge about the number of pumps per car and per cost. That's why I'm throwing this out there, amidst fermented orange food
I have NO idea of cost. I was at my local SC yesterday for routine service. I asked the service rep about the 'axel pumps' associated with the cancelled contract. He indicated the only pumps he knows associated with the 'axels/motors' were cooling pumps. He said the S and X have three. They circulate fluid (for cooling/temp regulation). The fluid flows to the battery pack and the motors.
Now, I know all the info we get from TM staff is not always accurate so I pass this along with a 'grain of salt'. I would add this person has been with TM a couple years and Inthink the info is good,
I read someplace that the contract was a five year contract for $100 million. So, I can't believe that the pump cost is $1k/pump.
So... I think there is a lull in Supercharger build out. Which, to me, means this is a high capex quarter, as expected for Model 3 production spending. To me, Tesla cuts Supercharger capex when they have high capex elsewhere. Maybe. Well, it's something I look out for which may mean something, may not.
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