What indications do you have to conclude that there is a "a flaky grid power supply" in northern Nevada? If the power supply is indeed unstable, could it have anything to do with using electrical resistance heating rather than natural gas for the drying ovens?
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What indications do you have to conclude that there is a "a flaky grid power supply" in northern Nevada? If the power supply is indeed unstable, could it have anything to do with using electrical resistance heating rather than natural gas for the drying ovens?
Highly doubtful. Electrical resistance heating has a power factor of effectively 1.0. More wattage, sure, but that's easily planned for ahead of time.
Wasn't there something about using heat pumps at GF1 to recover & reuse process heat?
KnowLittle
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Did we get one of those hollow red candles that TT was talking about a couple of weeks ago? Google has open at 319.75 & close at 320.87...
I believe so, but more importantly it's basically a doji that could end up an abandoned baby if nothing awful happens over the weekend (or GS downgrade of $5 on Monday)
Bullish Abandoned Baby
The guy on electrek is claiming Panasonic's american hires are holding them back, he says the japanese technical people are top notch but don't speak much english so it hard to train unskilled reno workers. He claims to be a low level technical manager for Panasonic, so he only has access to part of the picture there.
EM specifically answered on twitter ( a while back) that non employees would be able to configure end of Oct. Given that they are literally ziltch M3's in Oct so far, and also since S/X inventory is depleted ... do we have a S/X refresh coming along with M3 public release .. in next few days ???
Note: watching portions of
No mention of back seat size issues etc as well.
Anyone watch the whole video, comments appreciated
What Electrek article are these comments in? I would like to read them.
Edit- I found it. This is the same guy from the Australian web site, a few weeks ago.
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OK (just trying to understand), so what is causing "a flaky grid power supply" to the GF?
Probably picked up by AZ- Immigration and Customs Enforcement
There’s a reason it’s called ICE police -
probably funded by Toyota
Reading through all of this guy's recent comments is worthwhile. It doesn't sound good. If this is a scam, it is pretty elaborate.
endeep
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Kind of hard to tell how big of a issue Panasonic is really having from his comments though. He said things were going alright when it was just 3-4 lines because they could rob parts from the additional lines but now that they are at 10 operational lines they are running out of parts. But it still implies significant output even if they can't run at max capacity.
I wouldn't put it past those who want Tesla to fail to spend a few hours putting something like this together. That said, it seems a lot more credible than what they usually put out there.
*edit. This individual also seems to go back and forth praising Panasonic and hating Panasonic.
Trev & Ken had mentioned that they will not release the video until the first public deliveries (i.e. non-employees). While he hasn't responded to many of us asking if this is the case, I guess we are still pretty close to public deliveries.
I agree. On one hand he makes it sound like battery production is the main holdup with the model 3. But then he implies that they are producing some batteries. It seems like we should be seeing more deliveries if they are producing at even a modest fraction of capacity? I don't know what to think? My hope is that this guy is blinded by his personal frustration to the real, but slow, progress that they are making.
The idea that a great Japanese company would have major difficulties setting up shop in Nevada, due in large part to language and cultural issues, rings true to me.
It's entirely possible this is only one of the bottlenecks, and not the one that has seemingly stopped all production.
My prime suspect remains the seats.
RobStark
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There are lots of people, not just mid level production engineers at Panasonic, that think they are fluent in a foreign language and put that in their resume. Then when they move abroad and try to communicate with native speakers they realize they are not fluent.
They have had some automated QA processes since at least 2016 when I took a tour.
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I found the comments about lack of space the most interesting. I found the gigafactory design lacking in space for all the unexpected stuff that happens.
Panasonic hopefully insisted on the space they need. They will figure out the people problems. They can always bring in more Japanese employees if needed.
I found the comments about lack of space the most interesting. I found the gigafactory design lacking in space for all the unexpected stuff that happens.
Panasonic hopefully insisted on the space they need. They will figure out the people problems. They can always bring in more Japanese employees if needed.
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