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2023 Holiday Update
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M1tch
2021 M3P with EAP
Is a forced disengagement when I need to take over as it’s messed up or if it decided I’ve not been paying attention / holding the steering wheel and it disengages?
If it’s the former it could be interesting…..
phoenixcat
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Yes I agree, it’s what I was looking forward to the most also.
USS combined with HFPA would perform better than just HFPA alone and Tesla won’t allow older cars to perform better than newer ones. If we do get it they will disable USS.
Zilla91
Active Member
In that case I think I can live without the ultrasound visuals
Still happy with podcasts and Waze like camera alerts
Still happy with podcasts and Waze like camera alerts
Assuming that Tesla developed HFPA for non-USS cars, they are probably not prepared to incur the cost of developing the system for older USS equipped vehicles.
The logical solution therefore would be to give drivers the choice by adding a switch to allow drivers to select either USS without HFPA or the camera based (non USS) system with HFPA.
A switch would be a cheap solution for Tesla and would give drivers the choice.
The logical solution therefore would be to give drivers the choice by adding a switch to allow drivers to select either USS without HFPA or the camera based (non USS) system with HFPA.
A switch would be a cheap solution for Tesla and would give drivers the choice.
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phoenixcat
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Couldn’t agree more. Tesla have a wonderful way of p*ssing their customers off.
Given the choice of keeping USS or having fancy graphics I’d opt for USS every time.
Playing Devil’s Advocate - from what I’ve seen of initial HFPA videos online, there’s no distance measurements shown while in use, you just have the model to rely on.
If that was deployed to USS cars it would definitely represent a downgrade because we get accurate distances at the moment. It would effectively equate to disablement of USS which would certainly cause problems and anger (much like deleting radar functionality). I’m not sure where they would overlay distance measurements on the 3D model either.
I guess they decided it was easier to simply exclude USS cars rather than try and create some kind of two tier implementation. It is mildly irritating because I was looking forward to it and think along the same lines as others that a fusion of the two systems would be a straight upgrade - I.e. we’d see the stuff on the side of the car that Vision people do, but with the accuracy front and back of USS.
It’s a bit too early for me to ascribe malice to their decision though, maybe after a coffee
If that was deployed to USS cars it would definitely represent a downgrade because we get accurate distances at the moment. It would effectively equate to disablement of USS which would certainly cause problems and anger (much like deleting radar functionality). I’m not sure where they would overlay distance measurements on the 3D model either.
I guess they decided it was easier to simply exclude USS cars rather than try and create some kind of two tier implementation. It is mildly irritating because I was looking forward to it and think along the same lines as others that a fusion of the two systems would be a straight upgrade - I.e. we’d see the stuff on the side of the car that Vision people do, but with the accuracy front and back of USS.
It’s a bit too early for me to ascribe malice to their decision though, maybe after a coffee
Pagemakers
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phoenixcat
Member
Apparently HFPA is for Ryzen cars only. I think Ryzen + USS production was for less than a year, so unlikely they will develop a custom solution for a few hundred thousand cars.
So it has no distances displayed?
Distances + white lines would be the sweet spot for me. Doesn't seem like it shows either.
Zilla91
Active Member
Both my cars fall in the Ryzen + USS period and I’ve still yet to get the update. Has anyone else with this combo got an update yet? Maybe there’s still hope for the ultrasound visuals
Foxsbiscuits
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I don’t think Ryzen is a factor. There are no Intel cars without USS as the MCU change predated USS removal by several months.
The visualisation appears to trade distance measurement (which was never great on Vision anyway) for the 3D model, so if USS cars got this - with or without Ryzen - it would be a downgrade in functionality.
The visualisation appears to trade distance measurement (which was never great on Vision anyway) for the 3D model, so if USS cars got this - with or without Ryzen - it would be a downgrade in functionality.
Billbrown1982
TM3 LR 2021 | Red | FSD
No, thankfully driver disengagements don't count.Is a forced disengagement when I need to take over as it’s messed up or if it decided I’ve not been paying attention / holding the steering wheel and it disengages?
If it’s the former it could be interesting…..
It'll only be if you ignore the nags too long, or go above the Autopilot speed limit etc
I want to know this too! Don't make me go out for a drive......
Foxsbiscuits
Member
You get object detail and full surrounding of the car rather than just front and back, I don't see that as a downgrade. I think I'd prefer that, especially for tight spaces and odd shapes.
Mr Puzzles
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Looks like it’s not that accurate on the videos as the objects appear to move even when they stationary
Billbrown1982
TM3 LR 2021 | Red | FSD
Well as expected, we didn't get jack s*** 
No visual updates, at least on my 2021 model 3 with USS.
Went for a short drive and following the guidance of lots of posts i've seen here lately, I set the car on autopilot and sped straight through a speed camera.
No warning, no beeps, no slowdowns, no recognition a camera even existed. Obviously I am incapable of intervening, so I will be sending the speeding ticket directly to Elon.
No visual updates, at least on my 2021 model 3 with USS.
Went for a short drive and following the guidance of lots of posts i've seen here lately, I set the car on autopilot and sped straight through a speed camera.
No warning, no beeps, no slowdowns, no recognition a camera even existed. Obviously I am incapable of intervening, so I will be sending the speeding ticket directly to Elon.
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scdoubleu
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No holiday update for me here, but Tesla App update is looking slick for Powerwall owners, particularly if you have two Tesla Wall Connectors:
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