2023 Holiday Update

[Zilla91]

I take your point but if AP automatically re-engaged after a manual lane change and didn’t bong all the freaking time then there’d be virtually no point to EAP.

Not true, some people would like the idea of the lane change being done for them and would happily pay the extra for it.

 

[bainsy]

Not true, some people would like the idea of the lane change being done for them and would happily pay the extra for it.

From a sales point of view makes no sense…

Why would anyone think “oh yeah, ill pay an extra £1000 (or whatever it is) to do my lane changes by itself”

99% of people would just use the standard autopilot if the features you suggested are added for free…

That’s why there’s obviously more value for money upgrading.

Still question as to why you would pay so much money for something that hasn’t been regulated in the UK. A quick google search shows us it’s completely not worth it, so why people thought buying it was a good idea is beyond me.

 

[KennethS]

A quick google search shows us it’s completely not worth it, so why people thought buying it was a good idea is beyond me.

The value is judged by people differently so a Google search, if it results in what you suggest, is simply opinion. I do think it is overpriced but factored EAP into the total MYLR cost and for the features it adds felt for us it had value. To say it is completely not worth it is a view you are certainly entitled to. But opinions are just that.

 

[Zilla91]

From a sales point of view makes no sense…

Why would anyone think “oh yeah, ill pay an extra £1000 (or whatever it is) to do my lane changes by itself”

Because EAP isn't just automatic lane changes?

 

[yessuz]

That is what I said exactly.

They made it without auto resune just because they try to upsell EAP.

But ir dies not change the fact that it could be silent

 

[bainsy]

Because EAP isn't just automatic lane changes?

Exactly. You are suggesting Tesla add more features to basic AP by re-engaging AP after a manual lane change.

Which defeats the purpose of the upgrade to EAP.

 

[Zilla91]

Exactly. You are suggesting Tesla add more features to basic AP by re-engaging AP after a manual lane change.

Which defeats the purpose of the upgrade to EAP.

No it doesn’t, because if you want summon, park assist you need to buy EAP

 

[Utumno]

No it doesn’t, because if you want summon, park assist you need to buy EAP

Not if you have a non-USS car you don’t.

EAP buys you NOA & auto lane change. The other gimmicks have been “upcoming” for a year.

 

[Utumno]

That is what I said exactly.

They made it without auto resune just because they try to upsell EAP.

But ir dies not change the fact that it could be silent

Heh.

Prove me wrong: Tesla added the bong to AP specifically to add irritation factor to it, so that you’d be more likely to upsell to EAP.

 

[Pagemakers]

Heh.

Prove me wrong: Tesla added the bong to AP specifically to add irritation factor to it, so that you’d be more likely to upsell to EAP.

Even with EAP auto lane change fails 30% of the time so the drive is full of bongs anyway!

 

[Cardo]

Heh.

Prove me wrong: Tesla added the bong to AP specifically to add irritation factor to it, so that you’d be more likely to upsell to EAP.

I’d have to double check in the car, but isn’t the bong a setting that can be disabled?

 

[yessuz]

I’d have to double check in the car, but isn’t the bong a setting that can be disabled?

Nope.

Only TACC bong can be disabled

Enabling AP on both EAP and standard AP (and probably FSD) produces bong

 

[Zilla91]

Not if you have a non-USS car you don’t.

EAP buys you NOA & auto lane change. The other gimmicks have been “upcoming” for a year.

It’s your own fault buying a car with no parking sensors

 

[Utumno]

It’s your own fault buying a car with no parking sensors

I have one of each

 

[hmadsen]

But that's not how EAP/EAP works. He's asking for it to automatically disengage and reengage after a lane change, not to carry out the lane change for you as EAP/NOA does.

Sure but what i am saying is that my Tesla is even worse than the basic "If i indicate it will let me change lanes without disengaging"

So Tesla's system is even worse than my bog standard GM was years ago.

I dont need it to actually change lanes for me, i would just like for it to temporarily "disengage" and when it sensed i have changed lanes, it would auto-reengage.

 

[hmadsen]

I take your point but if AP automatically re-engaged after a manual lane change and didn’t bong all the freaking time then there’d be virtually no point to EAP.

I’m not defending EAP here, I think AP is artificially hobbled to sell an expensive set of EAP gimmicks, most of which don’t work on models without USS.

But I think while people are buying EAP in order to get the features they (rightly, imo) feel should be part of the AP suite, Tesla are going to keep taking their money.

I totally agree

Right now only 2 of 5 features advertised is working on the USS, Tesla's but the price for this package is still the same.

They lowered the price of the cars ~30% but the crippled package with NOA still cost the same, even if it only has 40% of the features working.

 

[hmadsen]

Not true, some people would like the idea of the lane change being done for them and would happily pay the extra for it.

That's fine, but why not make the distingction there.

AP - Manual lanechange, but AP will auto-reengage after it detects you finished moving over into the next lane.

NOA - Automatic lanechanges with the indicator.

I would GLADLY settle for the AP version, but right now it's "Completely disengage AP to change lanes"

 

[BitJam]

I dont need it to actually change lanes for me, i would just like for it to temporarily "disengage" and when it sensed i have changed lanes, it would auto-reengage.

S3XY Buttons provide this feature. They call it "continuous autopilot". If you're driving in autopilot and signal a lane change and then manually change lanes, autosteer gets disabled but TACC remains active. This is normal. The continuous autopilot feature will then automatically re-engage autosteer a few seconds after the lane change. Sweet!

 

[Pagemakers]

And 3 bing bings per lane change.

 

[yessuz]

S3XY Buttons provide this feature. They call it "continuous autopilot". If you're driving in autopilot and signal a lane change and then manually change lanes, autosteer gets disabled but TACC remains active. This is normal. The continuous autopilot feature will then automatically re-engage autosteer a few seconds after the lane change. Sweet!

But this should not require third party equipment. That's the whole point