I will take a snap at next opportunity. Right now the car is in the tint workshop.If possible can you post the energy app screen that shows how much consumption was used by climate?
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I will take a snap at next opportunity. Right now the car is in the tint workshop.If possible can you post the energy app screen that shows how much consumption was used by climate?
The AC shuts off unless you set a specific mode to keep it on (Keep Climate On, Dog, or Camp). It's also a huge waste of energy to keep it running when parked, which would only make your complaint worse. I personally shut off the entire climate system as I park the car (with the power icon, not just AC button) so that the fans also don't pull in hot air.We are using various settings now, mostly using 68 degrees, and go as high as 72 where it begins to gets pretty uncomfortable - we are definitely going to get one of those insulated roof covers, (we always recirculate the air-eyes always gravitate to that setting just to be sure, when it is super hot you try not to forget anything). We always select AUTO. One additional frustration we are noticing, is when we stop and leave the AC on, when we get back it is blowing warm, and stays warm until the vehicle is moving again -that is somewhat unsafe if we left a child in the car - does that happen to anyone else? It is going to be 118 degrees tomorrow here, and we are really wishing we had a different vehicle now.
As promised.I will take a snap at next opportunity. Right now the car is in the tint workshop.
I did exactly that.New owner here....the AC doesn't feel super powerful and that glass roof gets way way too hot to touch sitting in the sun. Tint and sun screen is on the way! I'm hoping I can reduce the load on the AC system for both more comfort and efficiency.
Some updates on this issue, after replacing most of the HVAC parts, the issue still exists and went back to service center, kept again my car for 5 days this week. and finding are cannot reproduce. so not sure if i am going to get the solution, but the video doesn't lie and is not normal. Feels like Service center should put some more efforts rather than plugging toolbox and calling it good. let me know if anyone other here have experienced it and any potential solution.My 2020 M3 started having HVAC issues this summer in Az. When it is 119F it feels like compressor tries to start but then shuts down quickly.
Service center looked at it after 3weeks of waiting appointment and first response was radiator has debris and that is causing it and needs replacement charging about $800 and said it won't be covered in warranty.
After some back and forth i asked for pictures they sent it 4hours later. Dont see any fins damaged or high level of debris so i asked this doesn't sound like radiator issue.
Some time late they called and said thermal test determined compressor issues and they will replace it under warranty. But now on my work order i only see part called cooling fan and shroud been replaced. No compressor.
So at this point i am not sure will my issue be fixed. Attaching a video of noise it was making.
Anyone experienced this issue and can help with some direction on should i accept the repair or ask them to check compressor?
The heat pump was introduced in 2020 with 2021 model year (I have one). It's not a recent 2023 introduction. So I highly doubt it has to do with heat pump specifically.with 2023 models, the new heat pumps have a significate heat curve in performance cost and lack of cooling. Just got the vehicle back from the service center - they said "nothing is wrong with your vehicle", I asked the service center how many other people (in Phoenix Heat with 2023 models) are bring their vehicles in with this problem ...the answer was a pause a Hmmmm and "We are going to have to refuse to answer that question". It is ridiculous to have the AC not be able to cool the cabin down, and then take a hit on half the range because of this new heat pump product that fails to do the job when the temps to get high. The loaner vehicles we get are older tesla's (2020 - 2021) work just fine. I am now with the news media - it is a real shame Tesla won't own up to this problem. Also logging BBB report. After spending 50 grand, I expect the AC to work and not loose half the range because they put in a new heat pump model that won't work efficiently in high temperatures.
Are you using a reflective interior roof cover? Are you charging at home and preconditioning the cabin prior to departure?Hey everyone, currently in Las Vegas and havebeen with the model 3 about 500 hundred miles now. The ac seems to be using the same amount of energy as driving is that normal? It seems like a lot and other people I have talk to in Vegas says that is no where near to what they consume.
Temp; 116 degress
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What SOC are you starting the charge at?Is there a fixed sequence for cooling during SuperCharging like first the fan and next the AC? Or does this order sometimes reverse in different Tesla models/options? I've always assumed: Fan then AC, but then I've rarely used AC in my Tesla ever.
Recently I've taken several 1400 mile trips and never once has my Fan turned on at a SCharger while others have the fan blasting away off & on as you would expect in the summer. My kw max is 114 going down to the 40s as the battery fills up - a speed that I can live with. Error msgs on screen do not mention fan/blower at all. This is curious to say the least.
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That's good to know, the person at the service center said they were new or something like that, so I probably should not have assumed the whole heat pump idea was new to the 2023 M3, do you know if they are manufactured all in one locations with all the same specs, or made changes to in 2023 - or does mine just have a problem? What city do you live in? If you are not getting to 110 degrees like we did in phoenix for 10 straight days then you are fortunate not to have to have been soaked in sweat with each drive and loose half your range. Several others have reported similar issues (on this blog) and the service centers deny a problem but when I ask what they did to check they just say there is a general HVAC check they do. My experience is real and I am extremely frustrated, my wife and kids sweat on every drive and we are constantly charging the vehicle. All the ideas presented don't address the underlying problem. The loaner they gave (on all 3 occasion's) did not have this problem. When we go in the loaner vehicle (this time it was a 2020 model 3), the AC came out cool almost immediately just like one would expect. (And of course hot vehicles always take a bit to cool down..etc - this is not about that.) The energy app still was not all that great on the 2020 but was at least reasonable. I can only compare with our Friends Tesla's and every one them tell me we have problem they are not facing - and they all live in phoenix as well. (They have older models). But I will tell you when I asked the service center if others were bringing in their vehicles for the same problem when they replied "We are going to have to refuse to answer that question". - that was frustrating.The heat pump was introduced in 2020 with 2021 model year (I have one). It's not a recent 2023 introduction. So I highly doubt it has to do with heat pump specifically.
I'm in California in the Bay Area. I don't remember there being 110F temps, but I do drive through areas in the East Bay that reach 105-ish. The AC didn't really have a problem keeping temps at 70-75F (my preferred setting).That's good to know, the person at the service center said they were new or something like that, so I probably should not have assumed the whole heat pump idea was new to the 2023 M3, do you know if they are manufactured all in one locations with all the same specs, or made changes to in 2023 - or does mine just have a problem? What city do you live in? If you are not getting to 110 degrees like we did in phoenix for 10 straight days then you are fortunate not to have to have been soaked in sweat with each drive and loose half your range.
You can perhaps buy an air vent probe thermometer and measure the air vent temperatures of your car and compare to a Model 3 loaner (with heat pump) when the outside temps and other variables (including air vent speeds, car speed, etc) are the same. This would give easily repeatable empirical evidence of a problem.Several others have reported similar issues (on this blog) and the service centers deny a problem but when I ask what they did to check they just say there is a general HVAC check they do. My experience is real and I am extremely frustrated, my wife and kids sweat on every drive and we are constantly charging the vehicle. All the ideas presented don't address the underlying problem. The loaner they gave (on all 3 occasion's) did not have this problem. When we go in the loaner vehicle (this time it was a 2020 model 3), the AC came out cool almost immediately just like one would expect. (And of course hot vehicles always take a bit to cool down..etc - this is not about that.) The energy app still was not all that great on the 2020 but was at least reasonable. I can only compare with our Friends Tesla's and every one them tell me we have problem they are not facing - and they all live in phoenix as well. (They have older models). But I will tell you when I asked the service center if others were bringing in their vehicles for the same problem when they replied "We are going to have to refuse to answer that question". - that was frustrating.