2024 Model 3 Performance Announced - Discussion thread post announcement

[Street_Tuna]

Did you preheat the battery on that run?

 

[milesr3]

Yes, 10 minutes.

 

[Street_Tuna]

Yes, 10 minutes.

Not bad with 0.46 upslope

 

[pdx_m3s]

I tried to like the ludicrous badge, but it had to go.

 

[Street_Tuna]

It would seem then that even the LG version of the M3P is a match for the Ioniq 5N going on the numbers.

 

[Destiny1701]

Still not worth it for many outside of US now that numbers are showing a closer match to the outgoing P. This is becoming harder for many buyers outside of US to accept much kess pay for the upgrade to the new P.

For Elon to not have mandated a few extra kw from LG, ridiculous. Ie. imagine a new iPhone with less talk time less usage hours and a lower grade camera for the same exact model but more expensive for the reduced version? 2 diff batteries and performance at the same price and exact model?

The issue is Tesla knows there is no reasonable competition at the price point so they can get away with this.

 

[Apprunner]

Still not worth it for many outside of US now that numbers are showing a closer match to the outgoing P. This is becoming harder for many buyers outside of US to accept much kess pay for the upgrade to the new P.

For Elon to not have mandated a few extra kw from LG, ridiculous. Ie. imagine a new iPhone with less talk time less usage hours and a lower grade camera for the same exact model but more expensive for the reduced version? 2 diff batteries and performance at the same price and exact model?

The issue is Tesla knows there is no reasonable competition at the price point so they can get away with this.

It’s not like the new model got more expensive. It’s the same price. So maybe not worth an upgrade for those owners that already have a newish M3P but for new owners, it’s a great car.

 

[arkhos]

Still not worth it for many outside of US now that numbers are showing a closer match to the outgoing P. This is becoming harder for many buyers outside of US to accept much kess pay for the upgrade to the new P.

For Elon to not have mandated a few extra kw from LG, ridiculous. Ie. imagine a new iPhone with less talk time less usage hours and a lower grade camera for the same exact model but more expensive for the reduced version? 2 diff batteries and performance at the same price and exact model?

The issue is Tesla knows there is no reasonable competition at the price point so they can get away with this.

The slight improvement in performance isn't the only improvement vs the outgoing model, though. There's a long list of changes, but I can certainly understand that might not be enough for some people, especially if you have a recent-year P.

For me, I've never had an M3P, and it is an enormous upgrade over my M3RWD. But it's not just the performance that draws me in, but the new front seats (sport AND ventilated), the redesigned look, modified suspension, upgraded stereo (from a RWD specifically) and other things that made me sign on, not to mention the price ended up being a lot less than I expected.

I definitely agree that it sucks to have two different batteries, especially when you're just right across the border!

Hopefully the 'total package' will be enough to entice some current P owners to move up. But I certainly wouldn't be surprised if some didn't!

 

[cptnslo]

Still not worth it for many outside of US now that numbers are showing a closer match to the outgoing P. This is becoming harder for many buyers outside of US to accept much kess pay for the upgrade to the new P.

For Elon to not have mandated a few extra kw from LG, ridiculous. Ie. imagine a new iPhone with less talk time less usage hours and a lower grade camera for the same exact model but more expensive for the reduced version? 2 diff batteries and performance at the same price and exact model?

The issue is Tesla knows there is no reasonable competition at the price point so they can get away with this.

I mean the 15 is negligibly better than the 14 or even the 13. Idk if I’d be comparing iPhones lol

 

[JezzaE]

I mean the 15 is negligibly better than the 14 or even the 13. Idk if I’d be comparing iPhones lol

It’s eventually going to get to that point anyway…how much can they innovate past the leaps and bounds they’ve already done?

 

[Zcd1]

Still not worth it for many outside of US now that numbers are showing a closer match to the outgoing P. This is becoming harder for many buyers outside of US to accept much kess pay for the upgrade to the new P.

For Elon to not have mandated a few extra kw from LG, ridiculous. Ie. imagine a new iPhone with less talk time less usage hours and a lower grade camera for the same exact model but more expensive for the reduced version? 2 diff batteries and performance at the same price and exact model?

The issue is Tesla knows there is no reasonable competition at the price point so they can get away with this.

Buyers worldwide appreciate your clarifying things for them - yep, the world version is junk, and not worth even considering…
/S

Seriously, don’t buy one then, but forget trying to find a better performing EV for the money.

Sour grapes appears to be your M.O. though, so not actually surprising - just tedious, pointless and repetitive…

 

[Destiny1701]

Buyers worldwide appreciate your clarifying things for them - yep, the world version is junk, and not worth even considering…
/S

Seriously, don’t buy one then, but forget trying to find a better performing EV for the money.

Sour grapes appears to be your M.O. though, so not actually surprising - just tedious, pointless and repetitive…

Buddy I’ve owned teslas since 2015…The entire S3XY line up so I think I have enough experience with this company and it’s products to voice a valid opinion .

I never said the new LG Perf 3 wasn’t great value for some and especially 1st time new Tesla owners or those coming from old enough model trims to make it worthwhile regardless.

Just stated what many outside of US are likely thinking and that this was a miss on Tesla in creating a sort of two tier product when everyone was waiting for new and amazing specs…not just one country. (Being in Canada, it’s especially a kick in the nuts living 1 hr from the border).

Coming from a US owner/buyer with access to the fastest version, your comments are weighed accordingly.

 

[arkhos]

It’s eventually going to get to that point anyway…how much can they innovate past the leaps and bounds they’ve already done?

I've gotta believe it will be another battery invention/discovery - something noticeable, not just 5-10 extra range.

 

[milesr3]

Not bad with 0.46 upslope

Up and then down. Not bad is good enough

 

[JezzaE]

I've gotta believe it will be another battery invention/discovery - something noticeable, not just 5-10 extra range.

But even that will likely be industry wide not only Tesla.

 

[jyavenard]

Buddy I’ve owned teslas since 2015…The entire S3XY line up so I think I have enough experience with this company and it’s products to voice a valid opinion

Not sure it’s a very valid opinion though. Certainly not an informed one. Sounded more like a rant.

Yes NCA batteries have a higher state of discharge, but a NMC (LG) battery last twice as long on average.

I know which one will have a higher resale value in the future.

 

[12B4A]

Not sure it’s a very valid opinion though. Certainly not an informed one. Sounded more like a rant.

Yes NCA batteries have a higher state of discharge, but a NMC (LG) battery last twice as long on average.

I know which one will have a higher resale value in the future.

It's also the highland version of the P with the suspension, NVH, and seat improvements/features. It's hard to say it's not worth it over the 2023P based solely on a few tenths of a second on 0-60 between the 2024 versions.

 

[Lolo780]

It’s eventually going to get to that point anyway…how much can they innovate past the leaps and bounds they’ve already done?

Adding AI. Can apply to cars as well.

 

[Zcd1]

It's also the highland version of the P with the suspension, NVH, and seat improvements/features. It's hard to say it's not worth it over the 2023P based solely on a few tenths of a second on 0-60 between the 2024 versions.

Bingo - that's exactly my point.

In addition, have we actually seen any validated Dragy runs or 1/4 mile time slips for the LG version?

 

[jyavenard]

It's hard to say it's not worth it over the 2023P based solely on a few tenths of a second on 0-60 between the 2024 versions.

I sold my US made 2019 M3P with a 78kWh NCA battery and I’m getting the Chinese made one.

When I test drove it I was more than impressed to say the least. Acceleration was brutal over my old one.