95+ score and no FSD Beta today?

[FLMan]

- Using the brake pads at all = aggressive braking
- Roundabouts / turns at the natural speed of traffic = aggressive turning
- Merging into traffic = following too closely
- Passing a car that has moved to a turn only lane = Forward collision warning

I disagree.

I use the brake pads occasionally and don't get the aggressive braking. Sometimes, but most often not, you just have to manage the stop. A few yellow light surprises and yes you can get that.

None of this seems to be much of an issue if you drive far enough. I drive roughly 500 miles a week and my score is always 99. I have aggressive braking, aggressive turning and following too closely all at some percentage above 0 but still in the green zone. I got 2 FCW's in under a minute the other day for a pedestrian on the sidewalk near a curve in the road and still retained a 99.

 

[Mark II]

I can see you are sensitive to this. But also making a terrible assumption about the way I drive to support your belief. You are taking my comment in a negative way of thinking. Simply curious if you understand the system and you went ballistic.
Perhaps the score is terrible for you, but it was fine for me and some others. Just don't use it and save your blood pressure from raising.

What car do you have? FWIW, my 2018 Model S is much easier to maintain a decent score vs 2022 Model S, due to different in how accelerometer works see:

Hard braking score worse on Model S Refresh (March 2022) than Model S 2018

Right now the 2018 has 96 safety score, since my wife drives it and does not worry about SS. When I drove it I easily maintained 100 score. On the other hand my 2022 has 98 SS and I try very hard to get to 100. So it really does depend on what car you have and what chips it has.

 

[FLMan]

I wonder if the rollout is based on location. Maybe if they have a lot of people on the beta in a location, they aren't prioritizing them for the next round?

 

[Mark II]

By noting that a high percentage of drivers I see across the USA drive very aggressively and tailgate, then I am not surprised someone might say this. I could turn this around and say that people who drive more dangerous than others would say they would be driving like a grandma if asked to simply drive sanely. And you are wrong. One does not have to drive "unnecessarily slow" as you say. Sounds like you don't understand the score. I drive really fast and have no issue with being scored poorly because of it.

You have a 2017 S. Much easier to maintain a decent score than a 2022 S (trust me I have both 2018 and 2022).

 

[Mark II]

I disagree.

I use the brake pads occasionally and don't get the aggressive braking. Sometimes, but most often not, you just have to manage the stop. A few yellow light surprises and yes you can get that.

None of this seems to be much of an issue if you drive far enough. I drive roughly 500 miles a week and my score is always 99. I have aggressive braking, aggressive turning and following too closely all at some percentage above 0 but still in the green zone. I got 2 FCW's in under a minute the other day for a pedestrian on the sidewalk near a curve in the road and still retained a 99.

Agree, if you can put on many miles of freeway driving it is easier to maintain a higher score. However I work from home, so put on very few miles, which makes this whole SS thing a nightmare. I going to go drive 100+ miles today just to get AP miles. I should not need to do that for FSD which is all about city driving.

 

[KrenGrl]

You have a 2017 S. Much easier to maintain a decent score than a 2022 S (trust me I have both 2018 and 2022).

Actually no, I now have a new M3 as of two months ago. Just haven't updated the profile. Frankly I don't notice the difference. I'll change the profile if I can find it.

 

[TotalSellout]

Based on today’s teslafi numbers I’m guessing this wave of new cars is just about done. Hopefully another wave will come soon.

 

[KrenGrl]

Based on today’s teslafi numbers I’m guessing this eave of cars is just about done. Hopefully another wave will come soon.

how accurate can that service be to reflect what is going on? I'd speculate that the number of people in there represent a tiny percentage of total users waiting for fsd. 1%? less, more? that would be a large margin of error. curious.

 

[TotalSellout]

how accurate can that service be to reflect what is going on? I'd speculate that the number of people in there represent a tiny percentage of total users waiting for fsd. 1%? less, more? that would be a large margin of error. curious.

I think it’s at least useful to establish a trend line.

 

[KrenGrl]

I think it’s at least useful to establish a trend line.

good point, but does anyone know what percentage of total drivers it represents? I assume (maybe wrongly) very small.

 

[rajbsn]

I opted out when my score dropped to 94 after 4 months last week and opted back in last week. I have completed a 130 mile trip on ap today. I have another 60 miles on top of this. I'm hoping will get me in and let us see

 

[KrenGrl]

I guess I should say that I don't care to get fsd. I just use the score because it is a game between me and the husband. While many seem frustrated to try to keep a good score, I don;t care what happens and it is more fun that way.

 

[TotalSellout]

good point, but does anyone know what percentage of total drivers it represents? I assume (maybe wrongly) very small.

My assumption is that it’s a small percentage of the overall owners, but likely a higher percent of those signed up for the FSD beta.

 

[KrenGrl]

My assumption is that it’s a small percentage of the overall owners, but likely a higher percent of those signed up for the FSD beta.

ok, I see. My guess would be there is no difference between drivers signed up for FSD or not. I only say that because I know two people signed up for the beta and they don't have the slightest idea what this forum is about. One got it and one still waiting. Of course I'm just guessing. As you say, it might be good to use as watching a trend.

 

[Stefanv1993]

Mine also shows that its up
To date as of june 3rd 7:58 pm instead of current date and time so this seems to be a common thing for people who didint get the beta

 

[auger]

96 score and didn't get it. But I also didn't get the huge pushout today of 2022.12.3.16 so I'll be optimistic and take that as a good sign. I assume/hope this rollout will expand in a day or two, like has happened in the past.

In another week, my score will probably go to 100. I had a bad score day on a 700-mile, 12 May road trip. That's a very large percentage of my total miles so a big hit.

I tried opting out for a couple of days, but it didn't erase my score. Others reported similar at that time. I've been at 95 for a couple of weeks but nursed it up to 96 a couple of days ago.

I'm really over the safety scoring game. I started the beginning of Jan.

 

[rajbsn]

I'm on 2022.12.13.2 it says current as of May 25th. I'm not sure what this means but hoping for the best

 

[auger]

I'm on 2022.12.13.2 it says current as of May 25th. I'm not sure what this means but hoping for the best

A couple of other people have reported something similar. I'm on 2022.12.3.3, and the software screen says "checking" and reports "up to date" with the current time and date.

 

[Mark II]

Actually no, I now have a new M3 as of two months ago. Just haven't updated the profile. Frankly I don't notice the difference. I'll change the profile if I can find it.

I do wonder if the new M3 is the same as my 2018 with respect to how the hard braking is detected. In the 2018 it cancels out the effect of gravity, the 2022 does not. So the stopping distance of the 2022 up hill is much less than the stopping distance down hill. In the case of the 2022 I can let regen brake at max uphill and never get a ding on safety score, and the regen is much more aggressive than the 2018, which will cause a ding on uphill.

Question: if you fully remove your foot from accelerator up a steep hill in the M3 do you get a safety score hit?

 

[Mark II]

Well I went and did a 174 mile trip on the freeway today, just to be sure I got the 100 miles on AP requirement. Hopefully they do another push soon, otherwise I am going to be seriously pissed. The lack of communication from Tesla around the requirements is very frustrating.