Does the car have a drive unit?
Just checked, yes single charger and the drive unit exists.
no really buy my shell.
Aren't you intending to transfer the electronics from the P85 over to that very same shell?
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Does the car have a drive unit?
no really buy my shell.
"Tesla doesn't care if you die in a Toyota car crash." Then this further proves that Tesla already compromises on safety.
What does Toyota have to do with Tesla?
I suspect you're about to learn more about finance than engineering.
As soon as this thread started, I was waiting for the first person call him out on the hypocrisy. Pass the popcorn.Wait... is this satoshi who's considering ignoring Tesla's standards in repairing a Model S, and knowingly putting it on the road where it may indeed be less safe the same satoshi who was adamant that attempting repairs that were not up to standard would result in things such as:
And, perhaps the most interesting:
??
Just wondering....
The fact that you ask this question proves that you're in over your head and that success in this is going to be a huge challenge. As it's been pointed out before...no, Tesla doesn't really care *that much* if you were to kill yourself driving a Toyota, motorcycle, or fisher price big wheels. That doesn't impact their business. Their business could be very significantly impacted if someone dies in a poorly repaired Tesla, as that minor detail is never going to make it in the headlines. Tesla knows that FUD is their number one threat.What does the media have to do with me?
Yes.
The fact that you ask this question proves that you're in over your head and that success in this is going to be a huge challenge. As it's been pointed out before...no, Tesla doesn't really care *that much* if you were to kill yourself driving a Toyota, motorcycle, or fisher price big wheels. That doesn't impact their business. Their business could be very significantly impacted if someone dies in a poorly repaired Tesla, as that minor detail is never going to make it in the headlines. Tesla knows that FUD is their number one threat.
Actually, it is. Many states require receipts for new airbags before a salvage vehicle is allowed to be legally driven on the road. By restricting the sale of the airbags, they prevent salvage cars from being put back on the road without being properly repaired.The parts ban is not effective at preventing salvage cars from getting on the road. Watch this thread & BTR's thread for an example. In fact, the parts ban is counter-productive as it encourages people to purchase used parts from other salvage vehicles that do not have as high quality as OEM parts. There is already a proliferation of used parts for this purpose..
As soon as this thread started, I was waiting for the first person call him out on the hypocrisy. Pass the popcorn.
I don't know why but this is already my favorite thread.
This is how I envision satoshi right now...
OK, I'll play along (despite your curious conversation expectation), here's my answer:
As a corporation I believe it's outside the scope of Tesla to be able to be concerned about all aspects of every other manufacturer's business. As individuals within the corporation, I'm sure they are concerned about the lives of all people in general.
I've never held the expectation that individuals, or even other corporations for that matter, can bring a car that has been in an accident back to factory specifications. If that was how my "stoning of BTR" was interpreted, then I would say I did not pay careful enough attention to how I worded my posts.Bonus answer: Your question is a strawman that attempts to side step your earlier assertion that the issue was giving the media fodder by meddling in a Tesla repair that would not be up to the original standards of the vehicle.
I wonder how watching this thread is going to go when I put satoshi on "ignore". The complete lack of willingness to even listen to other people is killing me....especially after he continuously stoned BTR for that exact thing.
Yes, and I pointed this out earlier in the thread. It's typically a good idea to change your mind when presented with new information that challenges prior beliefs. That's how one learns.
I have changed my mind because sufficient evidence has accumulated to support that I was wrong to berate BTR when I did.
Some points:
-I've consulted with an automotive mechanical engineer with significant experience to verify potential solutions to repairing frame damage. From there I've explicitly stated, that I will be doing a mechanical analysis of the proposed repair. I will also consult with a structural engineer sometime in the near future for more input. I would say that consulting with experts on structural integrity is about the most careful one can reasonably be when it comes to repairing frame damage.
In attempting to compare the relative safety of your suggested repair to some other vehicle, you either:
Invalidate your earlier stance
I guess I'm wondering why the media would not also blow any accident/injury/death out of proportion if a sub-standard repair was invovled, as you were so concerned about, if the bar for your car is:
To be honest, I'm as interested in following your repair odyssey as much as BTR's (or Otmar's journey before him). I just don't care for the double standard.
I don't know why but this is already my favorite thread.
Blacklisted cars are drivable. Tesla does not physically shut off your car. They will shut off supercharging and stop their support. I drove my blacklisted car for 6mo before I had it re-certified.no salvage car is drivable as it is blacklisted and wont wake up. As such tesla has no bussiness seling pyrotechnics.
Get a welding engineer involved with automotive experience.