WilliamG
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I’m no fan of the yoke, but the new Model S looks so much better than the old it’s hilarious. The awesome new rear diffuser, the built up front and rear fenders etc. It finally looks complete.
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A yoke or a joke?
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I’m no fan of the yoke, but the new Model S looks so much better than the old it’s hilarious. The awesome new rear diffuser, the built up front and rear fenders etc. It finally looks complete.
Cheburashka
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I saw the new one only once and the only thing that really stood out were the foglights.. in the wild the rest doesn't seem all that different to me. Need to take a closer look when one is parked beside a classic S..
whitex
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Now, remind us please, how many 3 point turns are there in an F1 course? How about how well do F1 cars do in everyday city traffic? Final question, how many F1 cars are street legal, for every day commutes?
You just may have a suboptimal driving technique. Optimal driving techniques put your hands at 9 to 3, turn about 100º each direction and then take over with the bottom hand to grip the bottom om the steering wheel, which is at the top at that moment. Turn it back, and your hands go back to 9-to-3 with your steering wheel straight.
TessP100D
Active Member
exactly, so many people want the yoke no matter how stupid it is, so they say.. oh. f-1 cars have it…..so it must be good.
I want the yoke because I don't think it will be much of an issue, but it has a wider base so it's easier to hold on to while driving on autopilot.
TessP100D
Active Member
The Model S has a perfect steering wheel already. Looks great, feel great, perfect size and thickness. No need to change perfection.
handles well in tight turns, in the mountains where your hands are working hard to control the car. No need to screw it up.
n2mb_racing
Active Member
I like the Model 3 wheel better, having had both. The model S wheel seems too large. Though, I appreciated the three stalks on the S wheel over the two on the 3 wheel. But, I got used to the AP controls on the wheel in the 3 over time.
I have a Plaid (three weeks old) so I'll chime in with my two cents... I'm not a fan of the yoke. As mentioned earlier, it's hard to use the turn signals without looking at the wheel. I also was recently cut off on the interstate.. try finding the horn while you're braking hard and screaming at the car in front of you... I just slammed both hands on the wheel and was lucky to hit the horn.
The hand-over-hand turning is annoying, but you get used to it.
Also, you can't drive with your knees anymore! (but maybe that's a good thing).
Steering wheel aside, the car is amazing... I had a 2016 S P100D with Ludicrous and the Plaid is way, way faster (going from 50 to 80 is insane). I haven't put it in drag strip mode to test the 0-60, and I honestly don't see myself ever doing that (unless I take it to a track). My Ludicrous speed Tesla was crazy fast from 0-60 and I can't imagine wanting to go faster than that.
Lastly - I got mine wrapped (turning my midnight silver metallic into a matte finish). The new sensors cannot be covered, so they had remove the wrap from the 12 dime sized sensors (this was not an issue with the older Telsas).
The hand-over-hand turning is annoying, but you get used to it.
Also, you can't drive with your knees anymore! (but maybe that's a good thing).
Steering wheel aside, the car is amazing... I had a 2016 S P100D with Ludicrous and the Plaid is way, way faster (going from 50 to 80 is insane). I haven't put it in drag strip mode to test the 0-60, and I honestly don't see myself ever doing that (unless I take it to a track). My Ludicrous speed Tesla was crazy fast from 0-60 and I can't imagine wanting to go faster than that.
Lastly - I got mine wrapped (turning my midnight silver metallic into a matte finish). The new sensors cannot be covered, so they had remove the wrap from the 12 dime sized sensors (this was not an issue with the older Telsas).
I have the refreshed S with the yoke. Turns are a non issue that many (who don’t have and/or haven’t even driven the car, are griping about needlessly as it is truly not a problem in use.
45 degree, 90 or 180 aren’t problems, at all.
Moreover, it’s super enjoyable to hold/feels good and natural in your hands, is awesome at higher speeds and frees up viewing area in front of the steering (that used to block the screens). The turn indicator controls are super conveniently located and once you become familiar are preferable to turn stocks and zero problem in use.
45 degree, 90 or 180 aren’t problems, at all.
Moreover, it’s super enjoyable to hold/feels good and natural in your hands, is awesome at higher speeds and frees up viewing area in front of the steering (that used to block the screens). The turn indicator controls are super conveniently located and once you become familiar are preferable to turn stocks and zero problem in use.
Indeed. What annoys me when I'm driving long distances on autopilot, is that the CC and indicator stalks are not visible from my viewpoint, and my resting hand needs to travel a large distance to activate them. I can imagine that driving with the yoke on autopilot will feel natural, and is the biggest reason for the change.
Cheburashka
Active Member
The whole point of the stalk is that you can manipulate it without having to see it... not sure how stalk visibility detracts from any driving experience
Randy is a great driver.
Anyone driving at the highest levels of motorsports uses a yoke.
Anyone driving at the highest levels of motorsports uses a yoke.
Wol747
Active Member
.....which your hands should be on anyway! None of the Tesla cars that are presently on the road will be fully hands-off in the level 4/5 sense in the foreseeable future.
... but Autopilot drives confident enough that you can manage with just one hand on the highway and mayor roads.
People are buying the S with a yoke. They're driving around with it and making turns, parking, ...etc... it takes time to get used to and they will.
The yoke FUD is much like how the M3 didn't come with a instrument panel and only came with the single nav panel. Lots of anonymous nicks were crowing about how the M3 would be a complete flop and it was the opposite. People drove it and adapted quickly. MY has the same format and is also selling very well.
The yoke FUD is much like how the M3 didn't come with a instrument panel and only came with the single nav panel. Lots of anonymous nicks were crowing about how the M3 would be a complete flop and it was the opposite. People drove it and adapted quickly. MY has the same format and is also selling very well.
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