"Acceleration Boost" option, discussion as to which models and how much quicker

[Knightshade]

Just to clear this up since Tesla deceptively uses different measuring methods for P vs non-P...

Using 1 foot rollout (the way the P, but not other trims are measured):

Post both 5% updates:

P did about 3 flat (I saw one or two 2.98 type runs but nothing quicker)

AWD did about 3.9 flat (I saw a couple of 3.86 type runs but most around 3.9)- tesla keeps using a different measurement (no rollout) to advertise this at 4.4 instead though even that is nearer 4.1 real world.



With the 2k unlock looks like the AWD is now about 3.4-3.5 measured as the P is (there's only been a couple runs in crap weather, posted in another thread) and around 3.7ish without rollout.

 

[aspec818]

The closer you get to 0 seconds, the bigger the power increase is required to lower the time by the same amount.
Lowering by .5 from 4.4 is way more power than the same from 5.5.

A lot of people don’t understand this.

 

[Apprunner]

The real winners are the Stealth P3D buyers. They are still a full 0.5 seconds faster with track mode and it only cost them $2k more than regular AWD.

 

[mmoham310]

The closer you get to 0 seconds, the bigger the power increase is required to lower the time by the same amount.
Lowering by .5 from 4.4 is way more power than the same from 5.5.

Kind of answers my question. Is it possible to convert how much avg HP u can get from .5sec

 

[jebinc]

Well, since you only live once, as life is not a dress rehearsal, I said to myself, “self, WTF... go for it... Merry Christmas to me....”

 

[SteveG3]

The real winners are the Stealth P3D buyers. They are still a full 0.5 seconds faster with track mode and it only cost them $2k more than regular AWD.

what's more,

it perhaps quite soon new Model 3 offerings will include,

Dual Motor
Dual Motor with boosted performance +$2k
Stealth (off menu) with P acceleration +$x (something like $4k would be my guess)

as someone who got the stealth at the added depreciation cost of selling my year old non P dual motor, not quite the same value (my choice, not complaining), but, for people whose first 3 was a stealth they've already purchased, quite a good deal.

 

[justsomeguy]

The real winners are the Stealth P3D buyers. They are still a full 0.5 seconds faster with track mode and it only cost them $2k more than regular AWD.

Yup. Basically this.

 

[justsomeguy]

what's more,

it seems likely that soon new Model 3 offerings will include,

Dual Motor
Dual Motor with boosted performance +$2k
Stealth (off menu) with P acceleration +$x (something like $4k would be my guess)

as someone who got the stealth at the added depreciation cost of selling my year old non P dual motor, not quite the same value (my choice, not complaining), but, for people whose first 3 was a stealth they've already purchased, quite a good deal.

really curious to see what happens to the stealth models getting through the system.

 

[Apprunner]

The ones who just bought the boost mode paid more for their speed than any other model it seems.

 

[SteveG3]

really curious to see what happens to the stealth models getting through the system.

based on past events, I suspect stealth models people have already been assigned but have not yet taken delivery on will not have a change in price.

maybe stealth goes back "on menu" at roughly $4k less than the full P, $4k more than a dual motor (w/out $2k boost).

 

[jebinc]

Just installed the latest Tesla app 3.10.3 on iOS tonight and have the option to upgrade my acceleration from 4.4 to 3.9 seconds 0-60 for $2000.

Seems like not quite P speeds.

Yeah, just looked at my invoice and forgot sales tax! So, for me, the upgrade was a $2178 upgrade....

 

[Knightshade]

The ones who just bought the boost mode paid more for their speed than any other model it seems.

AWD owners just paid 2k to go ~0.5 seconds quicker to 60.

P3D+ folks are still paying quite a bit more to go another 0.5 quicker than those folks.

 

[Apprunner]

AWD owners just paid 2k to go ~0.5 seconds quicker to 60.

P3D+ folks are still paying quite a bit more to go another 0.5 quicker than those folks.

With Track mode, upgraded brakes, and upgraded wheels and tires. I could say the Stealth P3D was a great deal. This, not so much.

 

[SteveG3]

With Track mode, upgraded brakes, and upgraded wheels and tires. I could say the Stealth P3D was a great deal. This, not so much.

I eventually caved, sold my dual motor non P and got a stealth.

but, I remember before that, I consistently had in mind about $6k as a very fair price if Tesla would offer me stealth through an OTA based on their pricing at the time (which I don't remember at this point). getting half of that for $2k would be a discount to that. I had no expectation of getting track mode, which I did, but, I guess, to be fair, to some people that's a part of the value equation, and $2k w/out TM does not look as good to them as it does to me.

 

[Apprunner]

I eventually caved, sold my dual motor non P and got a stealth.

but, I remember before that, I consistently had in mind about $6k as a very fair price if Tesla would offer me stealth through an OTA based on their pricing at the time (which I don't remember at this point). getting half of that for $2k would be a discount to that (I had no expectation of getting track mode, which I did, but, I guess, to be fair, to some people that's a part of the value equation).

Your stealth cost the same amount as this boost and it’s still faster with Track mode. Feels like Tesla ripped us off

 

[SteveG3]

Your stealth cost the same amount as this boost and it’s still faster with Track mode. Feels like Tesla ripped us off

My stealth cost me taking the first year depreciation hit on two cars in two years... i.e., I sold my dual motor for $17.5k less than I paid for it, or $10k when you back out the tax credit.

If I'd had all the information this summer, I'd of held my dual motor and gone for this upgrade now, and felt like I'd gotten a great deal. some of that, of course, is subjective... but, it sure cost me more than $2k.

 

[e-FTW]

Kind of answers my question. Is it possible to convert how much avg HP u can get from .5sec

Yes! But I am not the physics major you are looking for!
Either someone will soon post before and after dyno runs, or Engineering Explained will fill a white board to show us.

You can ballpark it by comparing power numbers for the P and AWD models, look at their times and try and figure it out. Or just do the math. Which I don’t have on-hand right now.

 

[EchoDelta]

Just bought it. 2200 w Tax. Appears in vehicle profile:

Post Delivery Options
Acceleration Boost

 

[Apprunner]

My stealth cost me taking the first year depreciation hit on two cars in two years... i.e., I sold my dual motor for $17.5k less than I paid for it, or $10k when you back out the tax credit.

That’s sunk cost. You can’t count that. Purchase price was the same as the boost models now.

 

[SteveG3]

That’s sunk cost. You can’t count that. Purchase price was the same as the boost models now.

lols,

you do realize, anyone pricing this upgrade vs. buying a stealth as more than a theoretical exercise owns a dual motor, and that sunken cost, today.

what's more, I don't think sunken cost is even the correct term... what really happened is, I took the worst depreciation cost of a car, the first year, twice, by selling and buying the stealth rather than keeping what I had, and getting an upgrade. not complaining, just trying to illustrate the difference between the options.