Candleflame
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the confusion comes from USA/Commonwealth using decimal points rather than decimal comma...So whenever you see 44.234 you thinks its decimal when actually its not.
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Anyone else dislike the new UI?
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Akikiki
A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
7-8 years ago we early adopters were to proud of our S's, that we took a pillow and went out and slept in the car, 2-3 times a week for months. I am serious.
drdumont
Member
I can relate to that. My Model 3s are so comfortable that if I get to work early I will nap in the car, and on short turn arounds (Leave work at 2300 and return at 0400), I just put the seat all the way back and snooze very comfortably rather than drive home and back. Hooray for Dog Mode! Fortunately I am also a practicioner of The Power of Positive Napping.
I occasionally deliver exotic birds for a breeder. Part of the allure is that the birds don't go through the frightening flying/air freight experience. They never have to leave the climate controlled cabin, and since I will drive and nap according to my timetable, they are not left alone or have to be schlepped in and out of a motel. So when it comes to nap time, we all just relax. No fumes, no stress, and they don't lack for companionship. Sometimes Frank the Eclectus goes along as a chaperone.
I get to drive my wonderful car, see the scenery, and make a pretty nice buck.
There is no odor issue, as after I deliver the birdies, I'll run my small ozone generator for a half hour or so good time for a restaurant break), then drive for 30 minutes with the windows open. If Frank is along, I wait till I get home. Ozone is a nono for avian types.
Shortly after I got my first Model 3, I opined that I would marry it if I could, but the kids would have to be raised Electric!
drdumont
Member
And of course, both cars got 2021.24.2 about 0100. So when the Sun comes up, I'll have an early Christmas, I guess...
2021.44.25.2
What a mess. I can no longer just swipe right to get odometer information, swipe left to get tire pressures. Now it takes a couple of hits that need more focus on exactly where I am touching the screen, more distracting, more dangerous. Various other actions seem more obtuse. Would be better if I could put control shortcuts in the bottom bar but it is only for apps.
This is not an improvement in ergonomics, not visually appealing, not user friendly. Ugh.
What a mess. I can no longer just swipe right to get odometer information, swipe left to get tire pressures. Now it takes a couple of hits that need more focus on exactly where I am touching the screen, more distracting, more dangerous. Various other actions seem more obtuse. Would be better if I could put control shortcuts in the bottom bar but it is only for apps.
This is not an improvement in ergonomics, not visually appealing, not user friendly. Ugh.
44.25.2 just installed. Had my hopes up but, once again, it seems almost nobody working on the Tesla UI drives much. Still the big, useless, dangerously distracting animation of the car going down the road and no way to shrink or turn it off. Still the menus on top of the map/satellite when they should be in the utility space to the left. Still small fonts and no way to change them. And still WAY too much energy spent on silly games and parlor tricks. It's a car, for cripes sake, not a playpen. The fact that Tesla immediately backed down on "passenger play" when the NHSTA started an investigation proves they know they are on the wrong path. So much potential for a killer good UI all so sadly wasted.
Akikiki
A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
Ooohhhhhh,, you kids lighten up. At its worse, it's still 100 times better than anything else out there.
And Merry Christmas,
And Merry Christmas,
smogne41
Active Member
And my car with the 'classic' pre 2020 holiday update UI is 200 times betterOoohhhhhh,, you kids lighten up. At its worse, it's still 100 times better than anything else out there.
And Merry Christmas,
Like Apple, the arrogance not design something without proper feedback and testing by consumers is glaring. You will like 4 icons at the bottom (apple). You will like it and get used to it we know what is best. We have degrees in UI and design…blah blah. All common sense thrown out the window.
Canceling FSD and dropping beta. Deal with this mess of a UI and see how the next 6 months go. Might be another one of my 1 yr car ownership experiments with Tesla. They are nerfing it up. But hey, there is a stupid light show!!!
Canceling FSD and dropping beta. Deal with this mess of a UI and see how the next 6 months go. Might be another one of my 1 yr car ownership experiments with Tesla. They are nerfing it up. But hey, there is a stupid light show!!!
Totally agree with everything you mentioned.
Also I think the apps icons/layout look like android now. I like the original Tesla-unique not-too-colorful style.
Yes!! This is the worst change I’ve ever seen in UI, it’s like we regressed 15 years.
navguy12
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bo3bdar
Member
Oof. Terrible. It seems like they must have lost all of their good designers and coders and just have a bunch of enthusiastic but inexperienced people now. Anybody with even a little bit of UX experience know that you try to make the UI match the use case. People who only use the iPad UI and think Apple is the be-all end-all of user design and don't ever drive the car, let alone in nasty situations like blasting rain or icy roads. I think it's not an accident that the UI rips off all the UX from the iPad even as a tablet UI makes no sense for a metal box at 70 mph. But hey, pretty.
So I can put apps in the bottom bar, just like an iPad, but I cannot put functions in the bottom bar. Like wiper cards. What a primitive way to look at UX, everything has to be an 'app'. Lame. I wish Tesla had designers that could focus on the actual driving experience instead of copying Apple.
Thanks for taking one for the team. I'm going to skip this one as long as I can, the UI was already half baked, now it's 1/4 baked.
Anybody looking to avoid updates- the best way I found to do this is to disable WiFi in your car. It will show an orange arrow that you have an update, but won't nag you every time you get in. If you leave it on WiFi, it will automatically download, and then nag you with a dialog every time you get in.
smogne41
Active Member
It is probably not a lack of good UI designers and coders (thought that may be part of it given how quickly Tesla grinds through people), it is a failure of management (Elon). He has the final (and probably only) say in all this. It is his juvenile taste and judgment we are being subjected to, and there is no way in hell there is any usability testing going into this. I knew when he said "all input is error" at the Plaid event that good UI improvements was not in the cards any more.
phigment
Member
I'm not a fan of how everything seems hidden in menus. In order to adjust window defog, defrost, or seat heaters we now have to open the climate menu. I liked these better as single tap buttons.
Also, I activated the side view camera on turn, now when I signal to turn in my driveway, that window obscures my homelink button... hm. Maybe I'll just stop signaling.
So far I think I can live with the rest of the UI changes.
Also, I activated the side view camera on turn, now when I signal to turn in my driveway, that window obscures my homelink button... hm. Maybe I'll just stop signaling.
So far I think I can live with the rest of the UI changes.
favo
P3D+ owner
You can swipe down on the video window, and it goes away.
Personally, I've never seen a new UI that lots of people didn't hate. I'm the type of person that can get used to almost any UI. It's not possible to put everyone's favorite functions on the main screen; and it doesn't really make sense to make everything customizable from a support standpoint. Most users probably don't know the exact name of every function, so if all the instructions had to specify names rather than position, it would most likely make a lot more people unhappy.
However... I do get annoyed at the silly additions in lieu of making the real functions work well. One annoyance I try to use but have a lot of trouble with is the scheduling. There seems to be hidden schedules that we have no way to see or delete. So if I enable a scheduled departing time, other times also become enabled that I don't want. A lot of times, I'll remember to turn it back off after the one I want, only to find it enabled for some other time. This is not that complicated, but they're too busy giving us new fart sounds and ways to burn out the lights faster.
However... I do get annoyed at the silly additions in lieu of making the real functions work well. One annoyance I try to use but have a lot of trouble with is the scheduling. There seems to be hidden schedules that we have no way to see or delete. So if I enable a scheduled departing time, other times also become enabled that I don't want. A lot of times, I'll remember to turn it back off after the one I want, only to find it enabled for some other time. This is not that complicated, but they're too busy giving us new fart sounds and ways to burn out the lights faster.
drdumont
Member
I wholehertedly concur. I have been soundly shouted down for expressing the opinion that mayhap Tesla could spend more time on making the UI work properly, that we could get by with less silly games and other diversions from the primary purpose of the device. ITS A CAR, PEOPLE! AN AUTOMOBILE! --- Sorry, I got a little carried away.
The scheduling gets bollixed, especially from the app. Set a time and it changes the time to something random.
However, comma, I kind of take issue re customizing. If I can customize the home pages on an Android phone or on my PC, why can't I put most used functions on the main screen for instant access, and move seldom used functions out of the way? Bring back buttons and switches, if we have to go through this tsouris every time some programmer gets a wild hair?
Candleflame
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actually they did enlarge the font for spotify now with the result that you see like half as many songs as before which is just annoying scrolling through long playlists.
drdumont
Member
Wonderful. Now we can see more clearly a distraction from safe driving.
But have to drill down to get to critical functions.
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