Articles re Tesla—Fact or Fiction?

[neroden]

Oh, you're calculating based on the heat.

The more important point is that 80% of gasoline burning is completely wasted; the CO2 is generated and dumped into the atmosphere in order to do... nothing. To dump heat into the environment.

 

[winfield100]

interesting article on Mark B Spiegel over on Electrek
TSLA: Wall Street is making a $9B bet against Tesla as market cap hits new high
and the "Spiegel bottom" / "Spiegel rally"
tinly bit of bad info. they say up 30% when actually up ~45%+ and how the shorts are on the hook for $9 Billion so far

 

[ggr]

I consider this to be a Bloomberg FUD article:
Tesla Employee Says Workers Contacted UAW About Organizing Plant

 

[ohmman]

I consider this to be a Bloomberg FUD article:
Tesla Employee Says Workers Contacted UAW About Organizing Plant

That's a Dana Hull piece, so I don't see it being FUD. The Medium post is also pretty gently worded, if it's FUD.

 

[winfield100]

intriguing article on Seeking Alpha
" three particular things he said to look for in the Model 3
(floor, charge port, HUD) was helpful, and I certainly will look for them"
will batteries be vertical or horizontal (floor thickness and energy density
charge port (only use Tesla or add CCS ChaDeMo)
Heads up display or not.
nice researched article with info dense

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4048049-tesla-model-3-update-look

(author long)

 

[winfield100]

Awful article on Seeking Alpha

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4048277-will-hold-wednesday-teslas-7-percent-solution

""..How on Earth are they going to sell $35,000 cars if they are losing $40,000 per $90,000 car ..""

(author short)

 

[JRP3]

intriguing article on Seeking Alpha
" three particular things he said to look for in the Model 3
(floor, charge port, HUD) was helpful, and I certainly will look for them"
will batteries be vertical or horizontal (floor thickness and energy density
charge port (only use Tesla or add CCS ChaDeMo)
Heads up display or not.
nice researched article with info dense

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4048049-tesla-model-3-update-look

(author long)

He's still promoting ridiculous ideas about the battery pack, as I pointed out in the comments. Cells will be vertical, they won't charge to 5V, and his cell energy density projections are ridiculous. I also don't expect Tesla to have a barn door sized charge port or multiple charge ports, they'll use adapters.

 

[winfield100]

He's still promoting ridiculous ideas about the battery pack, as I pointed out in the comments. Cells will be vertical, they won't charge to 5V, and his cell energy density projections are ridiculous. I also don't expect Tesla to have a barn door sized charge port or multiple charge ports, they'll use adapters.

but it does point out things to look for.
they do presently sell adapters for sure.
we shall have more info tonight though

did you look at other article? $40,000 loss per vehicle, looks like Anton W x2, eh
asked moderators to have the $40,000 verified or retracted, we shall see (which is a main thesis of the ?article?

 

[JRP3]

but it does point out things to look for.
they do presently sell adapters for sure.
we shall have more info tonight though

Not necessarily on any of those points, in fact I doubt we'll get any of those types of details.

did you look at other article? $40,000 loss per vehicle, looks like Anton W x2, eh
asked moderators to have the $40,000 verified or retracted, we shall see (which is a main thesis of the ?article?

Didn't bother to read it, seemed like a waste of time.

 

[winfield100]

Not necessarily on any of those points, in fact I doubt we'll get any of those types of details.



Didn't bother to read it, seemed like a waste of time.

agreed, it's a waste of time, i'm pretty much gone from SA and mostly here, retirement has advantages of more free time.
I did request a verification or retraction of the $40,000 loss/vehicle as SA occasionally excapes into "the wild" and someone else could quote it as gospel as it was on a "cough cough" highly reputable "cough cough" "investing site" where anonymous lawyers may post and may have threatened some with 'slander" (also reported and mods deleted) (the anonymous ?lawyer? is short something called "long term putz" whatever those are and sez he manage(s)(ed) a "bazillion $$$ slude/hedge fund" somewhat appropo, eh. no diff than Mos Eisley cantina

 

[chibi_kurochan]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4049370-tesla-capital-raise-now-bankruptcy-4-months

What do you guys think of this article?

 

[mrdoubleb]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4049370-tesla-capital-raise-now-bankruptcy-4-months

What do you guys think of this article?

I find that trying to refute utter nonsense like that point by point is about as effective as combating the "lizard-aliens control the world's politicians" theories. So I would discourage anyone from jumping in over at SA to try and reason.

But thanks for the laugh, sure could use it at the end of the work week!

 

[DurandalAI]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4049370-tesla-capital-raise-now-bankruptcy-4-months

What do you guys think of this article?

If that site was more measured and less doom porn, it would be easier to take them seriously. While they're busy going down the rabbit hole of no expected sales increase in S/X the Model 3 sales are completely ignored, because it's "not gonna happen" or it's going to be "late." I anticipate 2H17 to be 80,000 cars, with the M3 numbers being roughly 30k of that. All attention is on M3, so they're going to postpone the S/X line improvements until later. Pure speculation on my part. Wild guessing, I can throw darts at a wall as good as any. And probably more accurate than Seeking Alpha.

 

[winfield100]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4049370-tesla-capital-raise-now-bankruptcy-4-months

What do you guys think of this article?

montana "skeptic"
look at the author, discussed elsewhere, a "lawyer" who "manage a $1B+ portfolio for a family office" hiding behind anononymity.
ie, Billion dollar fund manager, lawyer, anonymous, writing on SA for pennies and short long term putz/options who has used Ralph Vader/Keef Wivanoff/whompy wheelz/ (NHTSA reports pest) as a source for 1/3 of an article and very cozy with Mark B Spiegel (see twitter "comments") (and these are the positives)(thats about 20-30 strikes against it just for starters)(and trolls here on TMC report back to SA and him)

 

[chibi_kurochan]

montana "skeptic"
look at the author, discussed elsewhere, a "lawyer" who "manage a $1B+ portfolio for a family office" hiding behind anononymity.
ie, Billion dollar fund manager, lawyer, anonymous, writing on SA for pennies and short long term putz/options who has used Ralph Vader/Keef Wivanoff/whompy wheelz/ (NHTSA reports pest) as a source for 1/3 of an article and very cozy with Mark B Spiegel (see twitter "comments") (and these are the positives)(thats about 20-30 strikes against it just for starters)(and trolls here on TMC report back to SA and him)

Thanks for moving my post to the proper thread to begin with, I was looking for the thread and couldn't find it!

Good to have different perspectives

 

[neroden]

The supposedly-from-Montana author of that article is bringing discredit on the whole of Seeking Alpha. I've caught him on provably false statements of fact, but Seeking Alpha management seems to like supporting the guy who is knowingly lying. I have my doubts as to whether he is actually a lawyer.

 

[winfield100]

The supposedly-from-Montana author of that article is bringing discredit on the whole of Seeking Alpha. I've caught him on provably false statements of fact, but Seeking Alpha management seems to like supporting the guy who is knowingly lying. I have my doubts as to whether he is actually a lawyer.

look at post 1171, on page ?59? of this thread to get a picture of what Monyana Skeptic looks like.
reflection in mirror/window
a mildly a paunchy fellow (gut) looking like in mid late 40's
hard to believe he has practiced law for 30 years and such. i guess it keeps you young looking like Dorian gray, practicing law
(and a shout out to the reporting trolls......!)

 

[⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4049370-tesla-capital-raise-now-bankruptcy-4-months

What do you guys think of this article?

I see seekingalpha.com in the address. Fake news.

 

[neroden]

I've actually found perfectly respectable stuff on SeekingAlpha on other topics, but on Tesla the occasional interesting article is drowned out by a pack of liars who post lots and lots of articles. The management should really ban them but they don't; instead they censor the comments of people calling out the lies. This is going to get Seeking Alpha management in trouble sooner or later.

 

[winfield100]

did you know """...Hybrid vehicles do not produce high-level nuclear waste. EVs do.""

what high level nuclear waste? electrons?

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4051490-tesla-power-generation-mix