Well, how about this for an optimistic interpretation of the phone call and email I received. I expect they have thousands of orders ranging from Nov, 2021 through to May or later. Even if they had some useful information about delivery dates, working out the variable dates depending on the order dates would be a huge job. Contacting just the first batch of people getting deliveries would just generate a tsunami of phone calls from the people with later order dates. So the easy path is to tell everyone "2nd Half 2022" and that sets everyone's expectation low, then when some start to arrive there are some happy people and maybe they will have better information by then. I never thought Turandot was much of a chance (but it's kind of fun tracking and hoping), But Morning Clara still looks reasonable arriving 13/6 in Port Kembla, so by the time they unload, transport and prepare the cars, most probably fall into July ("3Q"). Morning Crystal would also meet an early "3Q" delivery. Maybe just unrealistic optimism, but better than the alternative. At least for those of us with 2021 order dates.