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Australian Model 3 Waiting Room
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I can't listen to the audio, the article doesn't indicate it will be better range, or performance. It just implies it's new and different. Is there a solid resource which makes it explicitly clear that they will be better, and that we will get a corresponding improvement (rather than just fewer batteries to save tesla costs?)
CATL to supply M3P batteries to Tesla in Q4 for Model Y, report says
The Model Y with a 72-kWh battery pack will first use CATL's M3P batteries, which will be available early next year, according to local media.
cnevpost.com
The Model Y with a 72-kWh battery pack will first use CATL's M3P batteries, which will be available early next year, according to local media.
This is *** NOT SPECULATION ***, it is widely reported domestically in China.
The tension between CN and US is currently affecting the new North America facility CATL is planning. There isn't any indication that it has affected the above deal.
Currently, all LFP batteries in Shanghai made RWDs are using LFP batteries from CATL.
right. this was my question. Im not arguing if the battery tech is bigger/better, or if it will happen at all. I'm asking whether or not we know this will change the stats on the car. what will the range be (same, further or shorter) and what will the acceleration be (same, faster or slower).
personally im okay with anything that doesnt make the car slower. I didnt buy a tesla exclusively for the speed, but 7.9 is slower end for a tesla and is entering generic electric car terretory, which moves away from one of the reasons i chose a tesla over something like the kia niero
Assuming no weight change. A 20% bigger battery will give you 20% greater range.
Acceleration is more driven by the motors which would be unchanged in this situation.
The big unknown in my mind would be the charging curve and whether it will still be recommended to go to 100% for LMFP over LFP.
What we know so far:
* CATL starts to supply M3P (LMFP) batteries to Tesla from QA
* The first Tesla vehicle to get M3P (LMFP) battery is Model Y (and potentially Model 3 though not widely reported however they currently share the same battery pack)
* The new battery has a capacity of 72kwh (20% up from LFP) and will gain 20% more range hypothetically
* LMFP is better technology and is a complete replacement for LFP in the long run.
Speculation:
* In the short to medium run, if the LMFP batteries are for a new line
* If Tesla is going to upgrade Motor because of the battery upgrade
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Not if the battery is heavier. didn't see exactly this when there was the switch from the older battery to LFP?
if there is 20 more batteries in there rather than just charging capacity.. then that does drop acceleration.
NoTimeToLose
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I'll be happy if I get the car I ordered at the price I signed up for. There will always be a newer/better/shinier bit of technology coming along in six months' time, there’s no point stressing about it.
Having ordered before Xmas last year and, being delayed, my LR got the new additions from the January 2022 upgrades which was a bonus but not something I would have waited for. These new rumoured uprades/changes have no effect on my delivery which is currently on the water making its way to AU. Just happy to get my order after over 8 months of waiting.
LFP:
- Gravimetric energy density > Up to 160 Wh/kg[1] (580 J/g).
- Gravimetric energy density > 230Wh/kg
Just picked her up. There was a prominent rattle in the driver door over bumps but it settled right down in the 15 minutes it took to get back to my home office to work. They allow 2 days to report any delivery defects. She came with the mobile connector with two plug tails.
PcS000
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Oh yes please, I am not getting greedy at this point. I would just like my car
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