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Discussion in 'Autopilot & Autonomous/FSD' started by diplomat33, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. ZeApelido

    ZeApelido Active Member

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    Others are using more sensors to ramp up "progress" more quickly. But does it matter yet? Have they obtained L5 in useful conditions? Not really, though you could argue Waymo has in specific locations they are deployed.

    No one argues on current state, but on predicting who will make it to a really deployable L4/L5 first. I am only arguing Tesla has a true benefit in their data access to achieve that goal. Not that it is sufficient on its own, or that others don't have a lead.
     
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  2. Eno Deb

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    Nobody has achieved level 5, but Waymo has had level 4 since at least 2017 (restricted geographic areas, as you mentioned). And it is still unclear if Tesla's low-cost sensor suite will ever be sufficient to get there.
     
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    But what you're missing is that increasing the valuation isn't the end goal! Elon is a selfless savior of mankind! He's just trying to slow global warming enough to give him time to move us all to Mars. Or at least those of us who can afford the ticket! And he needs to increase the valuation so he can raise more money so he can replace more combustion engines so he can build more rocket engines so he can move people anywhere on the planet without needing cars at all so he can afford to build rockets to move people to Mars.

    It's all so brilliant.
     
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  5. dc_h

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    Just an FYI. Tesla is running simulations as well. I think they downplay that channel of work. Karpathy wrote about the new chip reducing simulation time from , I believe about 3 minutes to seconds with the new chip vs the Nvidia chip they are replacing.
     
  6. CarlK

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    Do you have link of that? Elon clearly said in the investor event that Tesla does not do simulation. He said if you can set up the correct simulation, meaning it covers all tail cases, you have already solved the self driving problem. That makes tons of sense to me.
     
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    The presentation showed a simulation from Tesla (has dual dump truck in right lane). Additionally, Tesla had job openings for Unreal programmers.
     
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  8. dc_h

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    Is there some unusual about a company talking about it’s intrinsic value with investors?
     
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    Elon said simulation is not a substitute for real world data. They do simulation to test.
     
  10. CarlK

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    Thank you guys for the clarification. Tesla still only uses real world data to train neural net which is my understanding from what Elon said. Missed the part that Tesla uses simulation to do test.
     
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    Ok, Tesla it is time to place the 2nd generation roster in a movie! Check with your local Hollywood producers! Ask Ice-Cube!
     

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