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Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
So there will be P85D owners who have their car a whole year before getting the Autopilot software installed on their cars. Yeah, I can understand people being upset about this!
Sogorman
Member
@wk507, completely agree. This has gone way beyond the available in a few months (or whatever the exact words were). What are your thoughts of possible actions? I can't help to think that the hardware now has one year less warranty on it and this is just the least of my concerns. Frustrated to say the least.
anxman
Member
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed also. I have one of the first P85Ds to come off the line and I was expecting autopilot to be available many months ago.
Sogorman
Member
agreed, and what makes it worse is every time we get an update on autopilot it's always three months out. Not once has Elon or TM hit any deadline wether it be release to EA or general release at all..... Free beer tomorrow.
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gizmoboy
Member
That's not a bait-and-switch at all.
It's a missed deadline, plain and simple.
No matter how easy or hard we think it is, it's proving harder for Tesla's team to crack than the CEO thought it would be (no idea what dates the team leaders actually gave him, so it's hard to say if they were ignored or they were all over-optimistic).
jeffro01
Active Member
Again, Tesla NEVER gave a launch date. I still do not understand why anyone could possibly be upset over buying something that didn't exist when they bought it with no set date as to when it will be available. I just don't get it.
Jeff
Jeff
And that's best case scenario. Given the challenges it sounds like they are still working through, I wouldn't have a whole lot of confidence it will come that fast.
I haven't searched for it, but I always remember that Elon said that TACC would come early and then AutoPilot by end of summer 2015. Maybe I am wrong about that, but it seems to me that it wont slip by much.
gizmoboy
Member
People who don't make software often have no clue how much uncertainty exists when doing something new (even recreating something someone else does on different hardware).
There are a lot of possibilities around pressure or even overstating things, but no reason to believe anything but "there were unanticipated complications."
Software goes over-schedule all the time. All. The. Time.
And in the old triangle of date, scope, and quality (you can have any two), if scope isn't flexible and quality isn't flexible (and I would damn well hope it's not), then time is your only flexible dimension.
They've already played with scope once to give you TACC and Auto-High Beams.
it's possible that the code for auto-steer and self-park is too intertwined to tease out one and deliver it first.
Or not. None of us know anything about the inner workings at Tesla.
But if they are looking for a senior software executive with plenty of entrepreneurial experience shipping code, my profile is right here.
MarcG
Active Member
jeffro01
Active Member
Highly subjective, but I don't think you'll find anyone that thinks that "several" equals "more than a dozen."
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