AWD delivery thread

[wesley888]

VIN? What week was it built?

Vin: 066XXX
According to the Window Sticker, it was built in August 2018. Don't know how to find out what week it was built.

 

[wesley888]

I’ve driven RWD P85s that are a 4.2 0-60 car, and really liked it. So I’m wondering, like everyone, what’s the AWD really like.

I have a Model S 90D and the non-P AWD acceleration is very similar to it. On paper, it's 4.1s vs 4.6s. On the other hand, Model 3 initial kick (from 0s - 0.5s), it feels more like a shock/punch than a electromagnet roller coaster acceleration (as in my 90D). Model 3 is much more agile and lively. Comparing the model 3 with my 90D is kind of like BMW M3 vs their 7-series. Even the power are similar, the handling is quite different.

 

[wcorey]

All this talk about fsd, but after watching videos of the car hiting other cars while auto parking makes me think the autopark feature is worthless and fsd is a long way off despite the videos released. EAP on the highway is just fancy cruise control but I'm getting it regardless. When the cars can autopark without hitting other vehicles I'll be more likely to consider fsd.

Would you link us to cars crashing in summons mode? Again, right now, today, EAP is a step or two above cruise control and, unlike every other car manufacturer, EAP will evolve, your existing car will not. But, by all means, don't buy it.

 

[Thumper]

Picking up VIN 963** next Wednesday. Red over White, 18" AWD Non-P.

 

[tvisdog]

Picking up VIN 963** next Wednesday. Red over White, 18" AWD Non-P.

Congrats. Res/order dates?

 

[the_danimal]

I really think there’s a lot of credence to the location issue being a larger factor than we realize.

For example, Freemont, CA and Tysons Corner, VA are some of Tesla’s highest grossing regions/centers. It seems like those with day 1 reservations are still waiting in these locations.

Is there any way for us to sort data in Troy’s or another spreadsheet by location and reservation date? I think we’ll all get a better sense of where we stand based on our location alone — not some other one across the country.

 

[Thumper]

Congrats. Res/order dates?

Reserved 3/31/16, Model S owner, Ordered 6/26/18, added white interior and got confirmation 8/13/18. Pickup PDX

 

[jsrawa]

Just based on recent posts I'm still seeing a lot of aeros being delivered and not a ton of 19".

 

[wcorey]

Took delivery Friday. AWS, Blue, White interior. Everything went smoohtly and loving the car. Two issues:

#1: Could not get the 3 to show up in the app on either my wife's or my phone, only existing S. Tesla staff stumped. Turns out we had to log out of the app and back in for the 3 to show up.

#2: Daughter and I take it for a test drive up the winding mountain road from the house. Lots of fun. Switch drivers at the top to come back down... and the car won't start. My phone had died and daughter doesn't have the app. No cell reception on the phone, but the car does. Had to flag down a passing car with a working phone, call wife and ask her to start it for us. So maybe carry that keycard with you at the beginning.

Tesla states driver should ALWAYS carry the key card.

 

[Camera-Cruiser]

I have a Model S 90D and the non-P AWD acceleration is very similar to it. On paper, it's 4.1s vs 4.6s. On the other hand, Model 3 initial kick (from 0s - 0.5s), it feels more like a shock/punch than a electromagnet roller coaster acceleration (as in my 90D). Model 3 is much more agile and lively. Comparing the model 3 with my 90D is kind of like BMW M3 vs their 7-series. Even the power are similar, the handling is quite different.

Thank you. Have you driven the P3D too, as a comparison?

I know it’s dumb, but I just love the punch of the P3D I drove, and other Ps, compared to my awesome electromagnetic feeling of my S85 or LR3 I test drove. It’s just weird not being able to drive what your buying.

So your shock/punch initial,thoughts are helping.

Funny thing, like many, I ordered the AWD knowing I wasn’t getting the full P experience, but would be getting extra range, like all dual motors before it, and a bit quicker. So now, if no extra range, then I’m might as well go quicker?

Of course if I pay the extra for the P, get it and am happy, I’ll hear about a firmware update that extends the range of the AWD and makes it 2/10s quicker. Which is what I want.

Maybe I’ve answered my question. It’s all software anyway. Funny, how no one has badging on ther car yet. AWDs come down the line and at last minute download P, or not.

Tesla love.

 

[Bays]

Would you link us to cars crashing in summons mode? Again, right now, today, EAP is a step or two above cruise control and, unlike every other car manufacturer, EAP will evolve, your existing car will not. But, by all means, don't buy it.

I've seen this video. The summon looks fine most of the time but isn't perfect at avoiding objects.

Hits the owner at 7:10.
Hits the camera at 8:40.
Backing up, the car can't maneuver much and side swipes blocking objects, at 9:00.

 

[voip-ninja]

Vin: 066XXX
According to the Window Sticker, it was built in August 2018. Don't know how to find out what week it was built.

Thank you. Have you driven the P3D too, as a comparison?

I know it’s dumb, but I just love the punch of the P3D I drove, and other Ps, compared to my awesome electromagnetic feeling of my S85 or LR3 I test drove. It’s just weird not being able to drive what your buying.

So your shock/punch initial,thoughts are helping.

Funny thing, like many, I ordered the AWD knowing I wasn’t getting the full P experience, but would be getting extra range, like all dual motors before it, and a bit quicker. So now, if no extra range, then I’m might as well go quicker?

Of course if I pay the extra for the P, get it and am happy, I’ll hear about a firmware update that extends the range of the AWD and makes it 2/10s quicker. Which is what I want.

Maybe I’ve answered my question. It’s all software anyway. Funny, how no one has badging on ther car yet. AWDs come down the line and at last minute download P, or not.

Tesla love.

Jesus just buy a P and be done with it already.

I have a 340xi. It is almost identical in 0-60 and 1/4 performance to the Tesla 3DM.

It is very very fast. Almost too fast for public roads if mashing the throttle all the time.

Definitely faster than 99% of other traffic and to put it into perspective the acceleration is similar to many production turbo Porsche’s of less than 10 years ago.

If I got another BMW I was probably going to drop down a notch this time to reduce the chance I would lose my license.

If you are craving the skull squeezing acceleration of a P model 3 then just get it. Life is too short to be obsessing over this stuff, especially if you can spring another $15,000 for the upgrade.

 

[BrianKH]

On Friday of this week, August 30, Tesla provided me a pleasant surprise by calling me and asking if I could move up my delivery from the scheduled date of September 7, 2018 to Sunday, September 2. I then received another call yesterday morning, September 1, indicating my car would be ready for delivery that same afternoon if I was available.

We picked up the car last evening at 5:30 p.m. There were a couple of nits with the paint, one a very small chip and the other appears to be some very small fleck of dust under the paint. Otherwise the car looks fabulous. The delivery process was very easy and our delivery specialist, Franklin, took his time with us and answered all of our questions (even though we were beyond the store's closing time).

My first electric car and what an amazing experience! By the time I got home (about a 15 mile drive), I had the hang of the regenerative braking which I really enjoy. Hang in there everyone - it is well worth the wait!! Picture of my oldest son with the Model 3. My dates and delivery process are below:

Reserved: 04/01/16 (non-owner)
Ordered: 6/28/18 Delivery estimate: Sept - Nov
Specs: AWD LR, Aero, Red Multi-coat
Edit button: disappeared August 15, 2018
No Trade-In, Financing through Tesla
Vin: 64XXX
Build Date: August 2018
Odometer at Delivery: 5 miles
Original Scheduled Delivery Date: September 7, 2018
Revised and Actual Delivery Date: September 1, 2018
Delivery Area: Dania Beach, FL

 

[Glamisduner]

Would you link us to cars crashing in summons mode? Again, right now, today, EAP is a step or two above cruise control and, unlike every other car manufacturer, EAP will evolve, your existing car will not. But, by all means, don't buy it.

I didn't say anything about the summons gimmick that also crashes until things if your not careful. I was taking about auto parking.

Makes me think fsd won't be ready for a long time or that a it will involve way too much risk for quite some time.

if auto pay might still guy things then i may as well just ok it myself as the only time something like that is useful is when it's a hard spot to fit into.

 

[sperkin]

Would you link us to cars crashing in summons mode? Again, right now, today, EAP is a step or two above cruise control and, unlike every other car manufacturer, EAP will evolve, your existing car will not. But, by all means, don't buy it.

Man says Tesla car started on its own, crashed into trailer | KSL.com
Summon failure - sudden turn as reversing out of garage crushed mirror
Video shows Tesla Model S backing up straight into a BMW | Daily Mail Online
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=QzFVejZYeUI2TngyYTBrYTdZNWw4RThmSW9NZ2dn

You can test this yourself. Summon doesn't use cameras and only scan the front/back using the sensors. It doesn't see things lower or higher than the sensor like a curb, bucket, chair, kid's scooters, etc. I have tested with my car already.

Also, auto summon using set distances only works in reverse. If you back your car into the garage and use auto summon say setting it to 20 feet. The car will keep pulling forward past 20 feet and leave the driveway in forward until it runs into a curb (can't find this video), sense something with the sensors, or you stop it yourself. It will not stop at 20 feet. The distance set in the app is only for reverse.

Btw, Model 3 summon is pretty much useless (if you have a big garage) since it takes longer and more trouble to open the app, tap summon, wait for summon to connect, wait for it to error out about proximity sensors being covered, try again over and over again until it connects and then summon the car. The amount of time needed to summon the car, I could already done it myself and left the house. However, Model S with the key fob is fast and easy. Works 100% of the time.

 

[sbtz]

Ok, I'm starting to get kind of pissed off at Tesla. Seeing people with reservation and configuration dates well past mine is making me question why I bothered to put down that $1k so long ago. Apologists will make excuses for them all the time, and I don't expect traditional car-maker accuracy, but some transparency as to how they're doing this would go a long way. Before my current P90D, I had three BMWs - each was custom ordered, and I knew where it was each step of the way, down to being able to track the ship it was on.

 

[voip-ninja]

Ok, I'm starting to get kind of pissed off at Tesla. Seeing people with reservation and configuration dates well past mine is making me question why I bothered to put down that $1k so long ago. Apologists will make excuses for them all the time, and I don't expect traditional car-maker accuracy, but some transparency as to how they're doing this would go a long way. Before my current P90D, I had three BMWs - each was custom ordered, and I knew where it was each step of the way, down to being able to track the ship it was on.

I don’t consider myself an apologist (as frustrated as anyone waiting on my order since 4/1) but you also have to recognize there are cascading bottlenecks affecting the delivery process currently.

Tesla will deliver 55,000 Model 3s out of about 50 national delivery locations this quarter.

By comparison BMW will probably deliver less than 30,000 3/4/5 series cars out of 341 national dealerships in that same time period.

 

[Glamisduner]

Ok, I'm starting to get kind of pissed off at Tesla. Seeing people with reservation and configuration dates well past mine is making me question why I bothered to put down that $1k so long ago. Apologists will make excuses for them all the time, and I don't expect traditional car-maker accuracy, but some transparency as to how they're doing this would go a long way. Before my current P90D, I had three BMWs - each was custom ordered, and I knew where it was each step of the way, down to being able to track the ship it was on.

I hear you brother, and agree. I'm not sure I will ever pre-order another tesla. That's for sure! Of course when the Y comes out they will probably be able to scale up much faster. My delivery window has changed to before the end of the month, but I still have an edit button. I assume this means I might still get some priority for a P model over others but not enough to justify the 1.5 year wait and I'm not sure how others feel that still don't have theirs and were line waiters.... AWD non P is a great value and price point which is why there is so much demand for it.

Of course changing my order last month to upgrade to a P model didn't help! But I don't think I would have gotten an AWD until Oct-Nov anyways. Then again some people have ordered AWD this year and received them already....

 

[wcorey]

I've seen this video. The summon looks fine most of the time but isn't perfect at avoiding objects.

Hits the owner at 7:10.
Hits the camera at 8:40.
Backing up, the car can't maneuver much and side swipes blocking objects, at 9:00.

Thank you! That was pretty good. Is it human intelligence? Of course not. Years back, I was flying on business of of PVD and when I returned I almost could not get into my car at all. On driver side someone was 2" off my car, on the other, maybe 6". I had to get in on the passenger side and climb over the transmission hump. Summons would have been perfect.

 

[kengchang]

I didn't say anything about the summons gimmick that also crashes until things if your not careful. I was taking about auto parking.

Makes me think fsd won't be ready for a long time or that a it will involve way too much risk for quite some time.

if auto pay might still guy things then i may as well just ok it myself as the only time something like that is useful is when it's a hard spot to fit into.

That's AP1 based on Mobileye