Jason71
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Except China is not shipping RHD MY performance to the UK. Allegedly they will come from Berlin.... eventually
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Assuming a 140000 liters per day consumption of the ship, 21 days at sea and 4500 cars on board, you would be looking at around approx. 650 liters per car for the trip (Not including the traveling back empty that a lot of ships are doing) - so around 3500 miles worth of fuel for an ICE car.
Not ideal, but it certainly is not the largest consideration in the footprint of the car.
Redbaron73
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Except there is no evidence to support this claim at all. All RHD 3 and Y come from China..
People getting VINs on this thread would suggest otherwise.
Also as said above if they're not coming from Shanghai where would they be coming from? There's been no news of any RHD work being done by Berlin except some people seeing RHD build capability or something like that on a visit however many moons ago.
Jason71
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They aren't. that is the point. If people with MY P orders are now starting to get VINs as @Durzel has been suggested above then I guess we are about to find out. I think the plan was Berlin but may now have changed to Shanghai since that is where the spare capacity is.
if Shanghai was the plan all along then why have they waited this long to ship the cars with the highest profit margin?
Edit: ah yes I see that is right and the VINS are Shanghai cars
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I get the argument about the economics of RHD production and I guess it will come down to whether the cost of Berlin gearing up for RHD would more than offset the higher cost in transporting them from Shanghai.
I’m not exactly “fixated” on Berlin making RHD cars for the U.K. but it’s a very strong preference and that strategy seemed to fit with the whole green/emissions/carbon footprint obsession and we do have to keep Greta happy, don’t we?
If I don’t get my Berlin car then, as someone else alluded, I can consider my options but it would be disappointing.
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Agreed and I’m always cautious of YouTube content as people love to speculate and try to join up dots, although Ryan Shaw seems more reliable than most.
I’m now aware of the new paint technology that Berlin has which explains the different colour options, probably at a higher cost.
Colour is a preference rather than a priority for me however. I ordered my Y in Midnight Silver which looks good, although just a little bit ‘flat’ compared with other metallic greys.
ACarneiro
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Nope - political posts have been moved to the political thread on the website. The website has rules for the benefits for all members, not for a few to get on a soapbox.
ACarneiro
Active Member
Thank you, I appreciate the clarification.
I would ask you to please consider making an entry to that effect so as to avoid misunderstandings like today. Apologies if you did and I missed it.
Zilla91
Active Member
I really can't see how what I said was political in any way, I merely pointed out a contradiction in a position someone took re: China built cars.
There's no probably about it unfortunately, the new colours are €3k for silver and €3.2k for red rather than previously being €1.6k and €2k.
Personally I would have expected the world's most advanced paint shop to be able to produce these multi-layer colours in an automated and cost effective manor. But it seems either they are way behind other manufacturers or are just making the most of the opportunity knowing some people will pay way over the odds.
Jason71
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novelty seekers maybe. This is the "I wanna be first" premium. orders would quickly wain at 5K and probably will at 3K.
You see a heck of a lot more white Teslas than you do red ones so clearly not everyone is happy to hand over extra for paint. If you have a 3 year lease you will be paying the full cost of that over the course of your three-four years and that is not a small amount extra each month.
I have no experience of wraps or protection films but if they are as good as people say it makes me wonder why manufacturers don't just optimise one base protection undercoat and have all customer cars wrapped in whatever colour they want ...
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