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yugsy
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FWIW, there have been 20 Model S and 25 Model X BXT7 / BR05 inventory cars to date, the first of them being added in March, based on the ev-cpo search of archived records. And I assume far more that never made it into the inventory.
So even though there's a report of (one of) these having a 75KWH, 350V sticker, there must be something different about them compared the to the BTX5.
And it seems like a big coincidence that the BTX8s going to Europe (total over 230 inventory MS to date) seem to all be 85KWH.
I wish Telsa was more transparent about what they have been shipping for about 6 months now.
So even though there's a report of (one of) these having a 75KWH, 350V sticker, there must be something different about them compared the to the BTX5.
And it seems like a big coincidence that the BTX8s going to Europe (total over 230 inventory MS to date) seem to all be 85KWH.
I wish Telsa was more transparent about what they have been shipping for about 6 months now.
Another possible BTX7 battery, this time in Birmingham, Alabama. Anyone have a friend nearby that could take a photo of the battery sticker? Never mind. The car may be there but there is no service center.
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Easy to get a photo if you turn the wheels all the way to the left. Sometimes the sticker is partially obstructed but you can take a full photo at an angle.
I don't know but i'm sure you can charge it to 100% every day because your limited 100% will be less than 90%
Its a good question. I bet Jason or someone actually did the math here although I think individual batteries vary slightly so you would be looking at a mean value and some distribution around it. Not sure that has been done.
Also interesting that the usable battery degrades slightly over time, so it isn't like the usable amount is fixed, more like it is some percentage of the total battery capacity.
I doubt it. The software limited battery is supposed to deliver the same range as the pack it replaces, so I'd expect to see it having the same usable energy.
I think the software limited 60s were EPA rated for two more miles than the original 60s...
Nda721
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Took delivery of mine the other day. The specs said BTX8. Sticker says 85kwh.
When supercharging the speed doesn't seems to taper off at the latter part of the charge as much as I was expecting it to.
UK spec 75D, build date 6/19.
When supercharging the speed doesn't seems to taper off at the latter part of the charge as much as I was expecting it to.
UK spec 75D, build date 6/19.
I doubt it. At some point they're going to switch to using the 100 modules in the 75 cars. They're not going to maintain two module part numbers forever.
I strongly doubt they had a large stock of left over 85 batteries. When they phase out an old battery, they keep production going with the old battery until supplies are exhausted. When the 85 was phased out, they announced it was going away and kept building them for a month or so.
They have made a stock of older battery packs for service swaps, but that wouldn't make sense for all the 85s appearing in Europe.
I suspect all the 75s being built today have new 85/90s using the new modules and they are putting old stickers on them until they make the announcement, then they will replace the sticker with the correct one at a service appointment. In the US consumer protection laws are different from the EU, so they may need to put a different false sticker on the American packs. I could be wrong, Tesla could be in legal trouble in some places if they are doing that.
I wonder what people are seeing in Asia, Australia, and New Zealand. There has been very little contribution from those places in this thread.
Nda721
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Great thought, maybe we can get pictures of the battery pack? Any distinguishing difference we can determine if they are playing the so game!?
I wanna win!!!! I think you have something going here
This makes sense to me. But who knows? Strange things have happened before.
I don't believe that there is any legal requirement to put a sticker on the battery at all? And arguably an 85 pack, software limited to 75, is still a 75 pack. So I don't know how Tesla could be falling afoul of any laws. What did they do when the went from 60 to 70? It was a similar situation.