Buyers Remorse because of cameras

[mspohr]

Do you get vehicle life upgrades with a FSD?

Don't know what you mean by "vehicle life upgrades" but...
If you bought FSD, it looks like you'll get whatever upgrades are necessary to make FSD work.

 

[AKD22]

there are new cameras. Bigger at least. There’s been pictures posted of size differences.

How do we know whether the new car has New cameras or old one? I am about to take my delivery (early next week), so curious.

 

[Zane Liu]

I took a close look at my September build 2022 M3 and it has the new camera I believe based on some images I’ve seen

 

[snorp]

I took a close look at my September build 2022 M3 and it has the new camera I believe based on some images I’ve seen

Be a hero and pop it out and share a picture of the part number

 

[Zane Liu]

Be a hero and pop it out and share a picture of the part number

Lol sorry I don’t think I feel comfortable with that. I based it off a comparison image I saw online where the new camera seems to have a slightly ring around the camera. I could totally be wrong.

 

[SwissY]

Lol sorry I don’t think I feel comfortable with that. I based it off a comparison image I saw online where the new camera seems to have a slightly ring around the camera. I could totally be wrong.

Take a clear close up photo then and post it.

 

[Zane Liu]

Take a clear close up photo then and post it.

Yeah for sure! So this is the resource that I’m comparing against. No guarantees if that’s accurate:

And here’s my car:

 

[Gauss Guzzler]

Thanks @Zane Liu Please post a pic of the image quality with the new cameras.

Here's my 2021 model for reference:

 

[mspohr]

Thanks @Zane Liu Please post a pic of the image quality with the new cameras.

Here's my 2021 model for reference:
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You must have the new warp drive time travel cameras.
Wahhhh... I didn't get these

 

[Zane Liu]

Thanks @Zane Liu Please post a pic of the image quality with the new cameras.

Here's my 2021 model for reference:
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I'll try in the morning when it's brighter out!

You must have the new warp drive time travel cameras.
Wahhhh... I didn't get these

Honestly I'm still not sure if I really have the new cameras or not. I'm not sure I've noticed any differences in everyday driving or AP. When did you pick up your car?

 

[SwissY]

I'll try in the morning when it's brighter out!


Honestly I'm still not sure if I really have the new cameras or not. I'm not sure I've noticed any differences in everyday driving or AP. When did you pick up your car?

The pic you post of a side camera (where the red paint is visible in the pic) certainly looks like a new camera. I will be curious to see the image quality on the display. Thanks for the extra effort in advance!

 

[JulienW]

Unless (or until) someone can get 2 cars at the same spot at the same time of day under the same lighting conditions and screen shots off the data file (not phone camera pics) any comparison pics are going to be unsubstantiated evidence and subjective test at best.

 

[kabin]

Do you get vehicle life upgrades with a FSD?

You get software updates but hardware is a bit more complicated. From Tesla's FSD page:

If you purchased Full Self-Driving capability and have Autopilot computer 2.0 or 2.5, you are eligible for a complimentary upgrade to FSD computer. Certain early production vehicles may also receive complimentary camera replacements. A complimentary hardware upgrade is not available for Full Self-Driving capability subscriptions; however, you may be eligible to upgrade at your cost.

 

[Zedbox]

You get software updates but hardware is a bit more complicated. From Tesla's FSD page:

What is the current autopilot mode number?

 

[enemji]

That is offering older hardware Tesla's with FSD Capability to upgrade to the cameras. Has nothing to do with the possibility that new cars have a higher resolution/quality/dynamic range camera. Which is yet to be determined. Could be just a different supplier with the same Tesla "spec". We need a removal and examination of the system. Also we don't really know if HW3 could support them anyway.

"...owners who have Full Self-Driving (FSD) capability and early production cameras."

If the cameras spec (size of image) change, it changes the complete NN algorithm as the standard for current AutoPilot.

 

[enemji]

Yeah for sure! So this is the resource that I’m comparing against. No guarantees if that’s accurate:

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And here’s my car:
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My take is the top glass coating is different. The actual lens elements in the middle are the same.

 

[kabin]

What is the current autopilot mode number?

Mine only shows Full Self Driving under AP. The current FSDb release is 10.69.2.3.

 

[Zane Liu]

The pic you post of a side camera (where the red paint is visible in the pic) certainly looks like a new camera. I will be curious to see the image quality on the display. Thanks for the extra effort in advance!

Sorry it took me a minute. Was pretty busy yesterday but here's two shots (front and right repeater cameras).

 

[ElectricAnt54]

Mine are Orange as well. Service call perhaps?

Nope. Front and side video being orange tinted is normal for cars built before these new cameras. Still unsure that new front, side cameras are not orange tinted.

 

[ElectricAnt54]

Sorry it took me a minute. Was pretty busy yesterday but here's two shots (front and right repeater cameras).

You need to post the rear camera too. Those front and side videos look to have the same orange tint as older cameras But having rear video will help us.