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Canadian Superchargers

Discussion in 'Canada Supercharger locations' started by Doug_G, Jan 15, 2013.

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  1. green1

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    You must have a park pass if you either stop in the park, or leave the trans canada highway. No pass is required to drive straight through on hwy 1
    Looking at the map though it is pretty clear where that charger is planned for.
     
  2. Cottonwood

    Cottonwood Roadster#433, Model S#S37

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    Some numbers: New Supercharger Cabinets are 135 kW DC out, shared between two charging stalls (pedestals); The first car to arrive gets all it can drink, and the second car gets what is left over. The chargers have a power factor greater than 0.95 so kW is very close to kVA. The charging modules are about 90% efficient, so 135 kW DC out needs 150 AC in, 135*0.9=135. That means that 4 stalls need 2 cabinets and 300 kVA, max. 6 stalls would need 450 kVA.
     
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    Hi,
    My son saw you (I assume) on Thursday the 19th in Calgary. I think he thought it was me (don't think there are any other blue ones in Calgary) but then he saw the BC plates.
    I was also trying to figure out where they were putting the superchargers as I will ultimately be trying to get to Summerland and I'm curious as to how I might organize that. I guess if necessary the Sun Country ones in Sicamous could be used for a top up but I'm hoping there will be one around Revelstoke too.
     
  4. Mayhemm

    Mayhemm Model S P85+ "Lola"

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    The Drummondville Supercharger page is throwing up "Access Denied" this morning.

    I can't recall, does "Access Denied" typically occur before "Coming Soon" or after? Or does it just mean Tesla is working on the page at the moment?
     
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    I think you meant: 150*0.9 = 135. :)

    I was just charging in California in 40 degree (104 F) heat. The fan noise is substantial. If the cabinets have to get rid of as much as 12 or 15 kW, though, that's understandable!

    I think it's funny that Superchargers produce more waste heat than the charger in any other EV can handle!
     
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    humm... hello? did you think that with a total number of 7104 cells that are charged from 0 to 265 miles in only under 1 hour would not produce that kind of eat???

    plus you mention that you were in Calif @ 104 F I mean give the car/technology a break...

    geezzz... :S
     
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    Revelstoke definitely appears to be in the plan, and it is really the only reasonable place to put one in that area.

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  8. Cottonwood

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    #888 Cottonwood, Jun 24, 2014
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    See Canadian Superchargers - Page 75 for my question about this.

    http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger/drummondville is redirecting to the sign in page. In the U.S., this usually happens a few days before the Supercharger site goes live, but everyone who has answered my query, claims there is nothing in Drummondville. Who knows???
     
  9. mnx

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    As much as I want to be excited for Squamish and Drummondville I probably won't use those Superchargers in the next 5 years. There are already several SC's closer to me than Drummondville.

    Once there's a SC within my driving range or signs of one then I'll get excited.
     
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    Where does that map come from?
    By my estimation, it is only about 246 Kms from Revelstoke to Summerland so that would be perfect though obviously just a tad far to go direct from Calgary to Revelstoke. Not many other options around there though.
     
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    It was originally relayed to the forum by @doug, from the director of supercharger deployment at Tesla, and posted here: #749

    It is really just a more accurate, zoomed up version of what is on the Tesla web site, under the "2014" future slider position.

    As the map shows, there will also be another site between Revelstoke and Calgary, probably around Lake Louise.

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    BTW, Robin the manager of the Vancouver Tesla store contacted me to see if we were available for an opening ceremony at Squamish "mid-July". So they are starting to plan. I pointed out the potential conflict with TMC Connect. They are aware of that issue, so hopefully they can get the thing done by the 13th or 14th, before we have to head south to Monterey.
     
  12. VCanucks

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    Yup that was most likely me driving around, and I made the trip to Calgary from Squamish and it wasn't hard at all. Check out the Vancouver-Alberta thread, lots of good info in there for doing the trip with no superchargers.
     
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    Here is some fresh info, directly from Tesla, to allay concerns about winter driving distances in the Rockies, as well as the issue of having to stop in the National Parks and pay fees. I sent the following email to the responsible manager:

    And I just received the following response, with explicit permission to share this with the forum:

    So... there you have it; Canada gets another Supercharger. Drive distances are shortened in the most mountainous section of the Trans-Canada, and Tesla drivers will not have to stop and pay Parks Canada tolls, unless they are really there to enjoy the majesty!

    Tesla is listening; lets give them constructive help and support!
     
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    Excellent! That makes my run from Canmore to Red Deer doable in my 60!. That is the only leg i was worried about. Now they just need to build it out and I'll go to Edmonton.
     
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    Good to hear! Of course it will only partially help with the radium/invermere route, but as long as you have destination charging there I think you should make it fine from Canmore
     
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    Canmore is great news. It will make it easier to get to the Red Deer SC if you're going to all the way to Edmonton.

    Edited: I see Morris shared my concern about that leg. I have an 85 so I would probably be fine from Lake Louise to Red Deer, but it could have been close in poor conditions. Canmore is much better.
     
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    The number of cells has nothing to do with it. It's the heat in the CHARGER that I'm talking about. The charger is in a cabinet behind the wood fence at each Supercharger installation.

    The coolant in the car was definitely circulating as well, but only some of the time it seems. Which suggests that most of the losses are in the charger, not in the batteries. (I could be wrong on that, I'm just saying what the observations suggest).

    And why the antagonistic reply? I am saying how impressed I am that the Superchargers can do what they do. No, I did not expect that they could produce a device that was 100% efficient.
     
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    Except it is a mute point if no SC are built.
    i personally don't think we will see them until next summer.
    Hello BW Fireside Kingston! Nice to see you again, and again!
     
  19. Cottonwood

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    In round numbers, the AC Chargers which are in the Supercharger Cabinets are about 90% efficient, and the charge/discharge cycle in the battery has about a 3% loss. If we assume that half of that loss is in the charge cycle (1.5%), then when at a full 120 kW DC charge rate, there is 13.2 kW waste heat being dissipated in the Supercharger Cabinet (90%*132kW-120kW) and about 1.8 kW waste heat being dissipated in the battery (1.5%*120kW=1.8kW).
     
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    I am excited to see that squamish will finally be ready to make it easy for trips up to whistler this winter. there must be a lot of tesla trips from seattle or vancouver up there. Newport Auto is a good place to charge if you get stuck in squamish without enough power to continue to whistler, like I did: PlugShare - EV Charging Station Map - Find a place to charge your car!.
     
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