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Climate Change Civil Disobedience
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I'm pretty sure this is assault...
It's time to hold these mercenaries accountable.
Morton County DA
Allen Koppy
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It's time to hold these mercenaries accountable.
Morton County DA
Allen Koppy
(701) 667-3350
James Anders
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Criminal Charges... that's why I linked to Morton County DA... If I shot someone with a rubber bullet you can bet I'd be charged with assault. Law enforcement should be held to a higher standard. That Journalist wasn't trespassing... she wasn't doing ANYTHING illegal. She was across the river on Army Corp land.. they have permission to be there. Whoever fired that round needs to be held accountable.
James Anders
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'We need a popular uprising against the fossil fuel industry' -Elon Musk
Wish granted. Now is the time to support Standing Rock.
Wish granted. Now is the time to support Standing Rock.
This attitude against the oil industry reminds me of what happened after the Santa Barbara Union oil blow out. On a Friday the city council voted to shut down all gas stations in the city to penalize the oil industry. On Monday they realized that might not have been the best idea since they would need to drive out of town to buy gasoline.
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mspohr
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hockeythug
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This is incredibly good news 
We've won the battle... the war continues... ~2k veterans marched on Standing Rock... I hope they'll all be ready to stand against the next fossil fuel project... I know I will be. The next battlelines are already being drawn.
No more pipelines! Our investment in fools fuel infrastructure ends now! This far. No farther!
We've won the battle... the war continues... ~2k veterans marched on Standing Rock... I hope they'll all be ready to stand against the next fossil fuel project... I know I will be. The next battlelines are already being drawn.
No more pipelines! Our investment in fools fuel infrastructure ends now! This far. No farther!
NWdiver, I would guess that everyone protesting the pipeline used gasoline to get there. I also imagine a lot of them are using fossil fuels to stay warm. If you think it's going to be easy to replace fossil fuels with wind and solar check out what's happening in Germany. They have installed a lot of renewables but are now starting to have problems with the variability of the wind and solar. In addition the cost of electricity in Germany is about 30 cents per Kwh versus about 12 cents in the US.
mspohr
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The fossil fuel industry works hard to prevent alternatives so we are stuck using gas.
Germany is working hard to develop renewables . It's not easy but it's possible
I've been watching Germany... looks good
The purpose here isn't to stop using fossil fuels now... it's to stop investing in MORE.... NOW! But I suspect you knew that....
The chart shown is the wholesale price for electricity which at times even goes negative because the nuclear and coal plants can't throttle back enough when wind and solar are providing lots of power during the day. There have been a few hours when almost all electricity is being provided by renewables.The government requires the utilities to take all wind and solar at high guaranteed prices. So the wholesale prices are basically what the utilities can get for their fossil fuel and nuclear output. The actual cost to households has gone up since the government started subsidizing wind and solar. In 2006 it was about 20 cents per kwh and it's now about 30 cents per kwh. So they are having a problem with at times too much generation capacity and no good way to reduce the output. To replace all fossil fuels they will have to have a huge surplus of renewables to produce enough energy when the sun doesn't shine and wind doesn't blow plus a lot of storage.
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