Maybe start using placebo. Tell people to quarantine for 14 days while waiting for 'result'.
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Maybe start using placebo. Tell people to quarantine for 14 days while waiting for 'result'.
Mentioned earlier here that Santa Clara County had been granted the opening of hair salons only to have it revoked after 2 days as the County went on the Watch List. Gov. Newsom spoke yesterday, Monday, and announced that all Calif. hair salons/barbershops are now permitted to operate outdoors after the State waived the licensing rules on this. I have no idea how this is going to work for the shops even with tents set up. They can spray water on hair and cut (no shampooing) I guess but it will be challenging to get chairs outside, and the cut hair cleanup should be fun. Doubt they will be in a position to run hair dryers and hair trimmers (maybe battery ones if they exist).
Really feel for shop owners and stylists working under these conditions. And what happens when the weather isn’t conducive to be outside. All this needs to sink in for some people to realize they are almost as much the problem as the disease. While there may be a long line of customers in need of a haircut, shops make their money from providing other services like perms and coloring which won’t be happening. Like with our drive thru coffee barristas, consider giving your stylist a nice tip.
Here’s Monday’s San Jose Mercury News article on this outdoor opening:
Newsom to allow California salon, barbershop owners to work outside
Really feel for shop owners and stylists working under these conditions. And what happens when the weather isn’t conducive to be outside. All this needs to sink in for some people to realize they are almost as much the problem as the disease. While there may be a long line of customers in need of a haircut, shops make their money from providing other services like perms and coloring which won’t be happening. Like with our drive thru coffee barristas, consider giving your stylist a nice tip.
Here’s Monday’s San Jose Mercury News article on this outdoor opening:
Newsom to allow California salon, barbershop owners to work outside
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HG Wells
Martian Embassy
I noticed cases way down and mortality was almost half in the USA yesterday. Has a corner been turned or is there a data problem. I would love it to be the former.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Standard weekend cycling. Sunday and Monday are always relatively slow reporting days. I expect to see a continued trend upwards in mortality for at least another week or two.
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bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
While I think home antigen testing could be a game-changer, it will only make a difference if people are willing to change their behavior. The US's dismal course and trajectory in this illness is a function of lack of behavioral compliance with common sense and simple epidemiologic principles and recommendations. All the technology in the world is not going to make a difference if we have our heads up our ass, believe that covid-19 is nothing to worry about, and continue to thumb our nose and lift our middle digit at anybody "trying to restrict our freedoms." We're not free in this country we are loose. We are enslaved in a sense by the doctrine of rugged individualism and the idea that Society works best if everybody does what the hell they want and suffers no restrictions on their impulses. BS.
Dr. J
Active Member
Sure, we could call it The Centers for Disease Control, and hire the best scientists, and run it apolitically, and give it plenty of budget, and be a world leader in the control of infectious diseases! Yeah, that's the ticket...
I somewhat agree. In the states that we're hit hard (northeast us) beaches are full, restaurants (indoors in some states) are 50% occupancy full, bars etc. Cases and deaths have collapsed. This wave going through the rest of USA was inevitable. Seems as if 20% needs to be exposed before the wave drops. The flu infects 20% per winter, then fades away until the next winter. Will the antibodies protect for more than a few months? That's the worry.
Cases and deaths have not dropped anywhere in the west or south but have exploded - deaths are lagging indicator but are going up. Transmission has stopped but only in a few places and only because people's behavior particularly in the New England states is much more consistently compliant with basic epidemiologically informed recommendations of mask wearing, social distancing, avoidance of indoor crowds Etc Not anywhere else. This is not the flu - please stop recycling nonsense - the decline in transmission in the Northeast has nothing to do with a mythical notion of herd immunity at 20%. You appear to be totally committed to covid-19 denial and minimization. Cease and desist please as you will not get much traction in this forum with that stuff
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Hate to break it to you, but social distancing stopped in the northeast. Plenty of backyard parties and as I said, beaches are packed. You should see how full (on some days) home depot is. Plenty of pictures of nyc residents in streets drinking (outdoor bars) masks mostly when shopping. Everywhere else it's back to normal. In Europe it's even less social distancing, people are refusing to wear masks in parks and beaches. And they are also having problems with mask compliance in stores. I'm not a scientist only an observer.
You consistently conflate and mix up issues. Outdoor transmission appears difficult to achieve. It's pretty clear you're not a scientist but you're not a very good observer in terms of your reporting of facts. It's possible that even New England is becoming overconfident. That is the undoing of people in this pandemic. If you haven't learned that you are literally not even at first base. As for your smug prediction that Home Depot is some kind of viral depository for anybody entering in it I'm not sure which Home Depots your sampling but it certainly does not describe how ours is working. There are rigid rules, you cannot get in the store without a mask and if you try to your rear end gets escorted out the door. And social distancing practices appear to be enforced not simply by signs but by customers themselves.
Again you are disseminating misinformation. I'd like to see you produce a single shred of empirical evidence from carefully sample data suggesting that social distancing has collapsed in the Northeast. If you knew anything about science you would know that those kinds of anecdotal single person reports are not meaningful data. They might point to a trend but you'd have to confirm that with meaningful data. The notion that your single anecdotal observation constitutes proof of something is just nonsense. As for your notion that Europe is joining the party and throwing social distancing and mask wearing out the window, again where is your evidence?
And if you are lamenting the lack of adherence to social distancing that's one thing but you do not appear to be doing that, instead you appear to be pointing to this as evidence that we don't need social distancing because as social distancing in your view breaks down in the Northeast and transmission rate does not go up, you appear to take this as evidence that the virus is being hyped. More b*******.
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Police had to be called at some home depot locations it was so packed. Everyone is going out, and beaches and houses nearby are full, we never sold so much booze. Lines to get into liquor stores on weekends. Our governor is threatening to reverse course in R.I. but cases remain low. One caveat is backlog on testing since they are now sending to out of state labs, 7-9 days to get results( even nursing home workers are waiting a min of one week). We used to use the 10 minute Abbott tests, but the CDC now frowns upon it.
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