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Germany is close to being the country with highest # of cases. How did that happen ?!
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Curse for delaying Giga-Berlin.Germany is close to being the country with highest # of cases. How did that happen ?!
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Oktoberfest?Germany is close to being the country with highest # of cases. How did that happen ?!
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Not Oktoberfest (which is long over).Germany is close to being the country with highest # of cases. How did that happen ?!
But Germany's spike started around Oktoberfest.Not Oktoberfest (which is long over).
Looking at the CDC website for the daily data, we see cases on Thanksgiving and Black Friday even lower than recent weekends. We had 4 consecutive days of low reporting. Look for a catch-up on Monday and perhaps into Tuesday. The US transmission rate did not drop that quickly.
But Germany's spike started around Oktoberfest.
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What makes this interesting / sad is that almost every country had smaller peak in the beginning of the epidemic in H1'20 compared to peak/s later on - except China. So, the countries simply refused to learn or they just accepted a large number of deaths to keep the economy going.
Thanks for the mapI didn’t find a tread suitable for this topic, so here I go. I found this page that claims to have a real time update on the Corona Virus. It shows nubers of infected, deaths, and recovered from the virus. It also include a realtime view of the building of the Wuhan hospital. Anyone here familiar with the sours of this live stream? I think this virus might might be a matter to consider as a TSLA shareholder.
Coronavirus Map
I don’t understand why people think this. They report numbers to the WHO. Could they be off by a factor of 2 or 3 or something? Maybe (this would still be an incredibly low number). But it’s really hard - you can’t hide cases very easily. If you start trying to hide cases, this will eventually lead to spread, because it will require complicity at the local level which will lead to incorrect local responses to prevent further spread. Uncontrolled spread will become very noticeable. There is no way to hide it (we have an example of this from December 2019).Or China is lying about their case numbers.
"I think it's going to be a material drop. I just don't know how much because we need to wait for the data. But all the scientists I've talked to . . . are like 'this is not going to be good.'"
But Germany's spike started around Oktoberfest.
Or China is lying about their case numbers.
Yes, you can't easily hide pandemic numbers. As any number of governments from India to New York to Russia to Iran to Florida have found out.I don’t understand why people think this. They report numbers to the WHO. Could they be off by a factor of 2 or 3 or something?
If anyone could hide case numbers it's China. But they have no reason to.I don’t understand why people think this. They report numbers to the WHO. Could they be off by a factor of 2 or 3 or something? Maybe (this would still be an incredibly low number). But it’s really hard - you can’t hide cases very easily.
There's a hell of a lot more loss of freedom there than just two weeks quarantine for travellers.I tend to think their approach has been the best for economic activity. It does require extreme inconvenience and loss of freedom at an individual level (people who have to travel have to quarantine in isolation for weeks).
Yes, western governments completely blew their chance to install an Orwellian surveillance state. /sWhat makes this interesting / sad is that almost every country had smaller peak in the beginning of the epidemic in H1'20 compared to peak/s later on - except China. So, the countries simply refused to learn ...
Yes, this was just an example, specifically related to impact on economic activity. There is also forced testing, extreme lockdowns, etc.There's a hell of a lot more loss of freedom there than just two weeks quarantine for travellers.
Yeah, I think if anyone could they could. But that being said, I still think it would be virtually impossible to hide uncontrolled spread. Only in a place like North Korea do we really have no idea what is happening. China is too connected, in spite of the Great Firewall, to hide what is happening.If anyone could hide case numbers it's China. But they have no reason to.
Or for that matter New Zealand type zero tolerance.Yes, western governments completely blew their chance to install an Orwellian surveillance state. /s
How are things in Sweden? Here in the US, in some areas hospitals are already being filled again with Delta patients thanks to a Winter wave.Later in the evening, a report by Channel 12 said the Pfizer vaccine is just slightly less effective in preventing infection with Omicron than with Delta – 90% as opposed to 95% – while it is as effective – around 93% – in preventing serious symptoms at least for those vaccinated with a booster.
According to the report, the ability of the variant to infect is higher than Delta but not as much as feared – around 1.3 times higher.
At the same time, those not inoculated have a 2.4 times greater chance of developing serious symptoms, a significant figure.
COVID: First signs that vaccines protect against Omicron
We have a combination of a rapidly spreading variant, which gives serious symptoms to a higher share of the unvaccinated. Expect to see very busy hospitals in many places, which might lead to a lack of oxygen and people who could have survived in ICU dying. One could hope the world has taken the last 2 years to prepare for this eventuality.
It’s not too bad, better than most of Europe and our neighbouring countries right now. But cases are increasing rapidly the last few weeks so the next few months might be bad.How are things in Sweden? Here in the US, in some areas hospitals are already being filled again with Delta patients thanks to a Winter wave.
We have a combination of a rapidly spreading variant, which gives serious symptoms to a higher share of the unvaccinated.
the Pfizer vaccine is just slightly less effective in preventing infection with Omicron than with Delta – 90% as opposed to 95% – while it is as effective – around 93% – in preventing serious symptoms at least for those vaccinated with a booster.
I’m a bit skeptical about the reliability of these reports. It’s hard to imagine how these results have already been generated within just a few days since the variant was identified as a concern.Later in the evening, a report by Channel 12 said the Pfizer vaccine is just slightly less effective in preventing infection with Omicron than with Delta – 90% as opposed to 95% – while it is as effective – around 93% – in preventing serious symptoms at least for those vaccinated with a booster.
According to the report, the ability of the variant to infect is higher than Delta but not as much as feared – around 1.3 times higher.
At the same time, those not inoculated have a 2.4 times greater chance of developing serious symptoms, a significant figure.