Current Delivery Times

[TatisJr]

I believe this is true for CA state as well - you pay sales tax after subtracting the trade-in value from the vehicle price. Consider this when getting quote from vroom, carmax etc

Sadly you are misinformed. Sacramento wants their tax money coming and going. You will get taxed on the entire amount of your Y. It’s our weather tax, for living in a nice climate.

 

[tangible1]

In it's current iteration, Autopilot is no different than adaptive cruise control (or whatever car manufacturers choose to call it) on upper mid to higher end vehicles on the road today. They both keep you in your lane, and maintain a certain distance between your vehicle and the one in front of you.

The only difference is there's a lot of industries and large corporations that stand to lose a lot of revenue, if not their entire business should EV's become the dominant mode of transportation. A simple case here of follow the money and it all leads to sensationalizing every negative story about an EV, especially Tesla.

I'll take notice off such reports when they put such incidents in context with how often they also occur in ICE vehicles. Heck, I'll even take them mentioning that they also happen in ICE vehicles. More often than not, such stories are a result of driver error, not technology / vehicle error. It's just not as click-inducing headline to say "man not paying attention crashes car"

I completely agree that CONTEXT is king. Without it, reports of 'crisis' are simply the old Media adage "if it burns or it bleeds....it leads".
However, the conspiracy theories of old money vs new technology lack the context of 'there's nothing they can really do about it'. Disruption is...disruption.
AP is indeed just a driver assistance system, perhaps poorly named since it implies more.
FSD may be a complete misnomer, since Tesla can't get their EDD logistics algorithm good. Given that, how could you trust their FSD ???

 

[DaveGT]

Hey everyone, meet Aegon. He got his name because of the love affair between the Model 3 and the Model X. I also wanted that name because I am dork. When autopilot messes up I can be like "Jon Snow, you know nothing." and when we pass a gas station or broken down I can be like "KING OF THE NORTH!!". I am easily amused.

The rest is going to be lengthy because I am going to go into detail about my trip back to Milwaukee from St Louis, touching on autopilot and charging.

Note: this is based on a 385 mile road trip so it is limited and it is my opinion and based on my experiences.

TLDR: Delivery went really well, super easy and no major issues. The frunk is a little misaligned but to me it is not worth the service appointment because it is so minor. If you are worried about road trips and charging, don't. Yes, charging is longer, but if you are some that has a family and you don't just fill up and leave, charging isn't an issue. If you have a family, by the time you get your kids out and go to the bathroom, send a couple texts or look at your trip route, chances are you are ready to head out again. Also, look into charging etiquette. While in autopilot you have to be paying attention and ready 100% of the time. In my opinion, FSD is a long way out. The issues I ran into, I can't believe that it is close and I fall in line with some critics. Tesla should rename autopilot and FSD to something different, those names imply that the car is in control of the car, and it is not, it is an assistant. Other manufactures make it more obvious on who is in charge "Co-pilot 360" or just plain "driver assistance". Tesla should go with something like "The Assistant" for autopilot and "The Executive Assistant" for FSD beta...make it more obvious that the driver is the one in charge.


The in depth impressions.

Delivery:

This went super smooth, kind of too smooth. I like that I looked the car over and everything looked good, and that was it. But the whole touchless, I don't I felt like I was doing something wrong because of how easy it was. I did have a question about a document so I did end up going inside, but the person I talked to checked nothing, no id, no insurance, didn't even check for payment because we forgot to put the check in the folder until we were walking back to the car.

So the delivery was smooth, awesome, easy but weird at the same time.


Charging:

We left St Louis with 63%.

First Stop:

We drove to a Springfield, IL supercharging and got there at 25%. This charger had 8 stalls and rated to charge at 150 kW. We were the only ones there. The Tesla suggested a 20 minute charge and to leave at 50% charge to make it to the next charger. My wife needed to get gas for her Forester, so we ran down the road about a mile to get gas. We filled up, went to the bathroom and got a couple of snacks and then went back to the car. I don't know exactly how much time passed but it seemed like 15 mins. We got back to the car and it was at 83%. The charger was still pulling 163 kW. When we stopped charging there were now 5 others there and another one pulling in as I left. Total charge time, 26 mins. This charge really caught me off guard because it didn't think we were their that long, because we just ran to the gas station and came back.

Second Stop:

We stopped at Peru, IL. The charger had 8 stalls was rated for 150 kW and there were 2 others already charging. We plugged in at 33% and Tesla said 15 mins. Not even 30 seconds after plugging in someone pulled in right next to me, so I unplugged and moved to an open bank (will explain why down below). We went into the Hy-Vee went to the bathroom and grabbed some coffee (Starbucks inside), came out and it predicted that that we would get home with 5%. I didn't feel comfortable with that because first EV road trip and I decided to wait until it predicted 10%. After I sent a couple of texts ready to go, 78% and 22 min charge and now 4 other stalls occupied. When leaving there were 2 others pulling in.

Please look into charging etiquette, the V2, 150 kW, chargers share power banks. If you haven't been to a supercharger, they are labeled 1a,1b,2a,2b....etc. 1a and 1b will share the 150 kW between the 2 stalls. So if you are plugged into 1a and someone plugs into 1b you both will have slower charging speeds. So if you are pulling in and there is an open bank, 4a and 4b are both open, it is better and polite for you to plug into one of those first. With V3, 250 kW, chargers this is not an issue, stalls do not split the power. Most supercharges installs since later 2019 have been V3.


Autopilot:

The trip was 385 miles and I tried to use autopilot as much as I could to get a good feeling of the limitations and what not. Autopilot is the best driver assistance that I have experienced, I really only experienced Toyota's. Here are my thoughts/experiences on Autopilot:

• If you are in the slow lane and you come up to an on ramp, the car does pull to the right until it reads the line. It handles off ramps fine, I think because the off ramps start from the front of the car, so the car "sees" that it is an off ramp and the lane didn't just get really wide. I don't recall the Tesla Vision car that I test drove doing that, it could have been something that I didn't notice or just didn't have that use case come up much on the test drive.
• If you are in autopilot and a semi or car comes into your lane a little bit, the car will break from holding the center of the lane and keep the distance from the semi if the car thinks it can do that and stay in the lane. I love that.
• Autopilot loves to keep the center of the lane, it doesn't bounce back and forth in the lane like other driver assistance systems. If you are enabling autopilot, make sure you are close to the center of the lane, otherwise you will probably get a jerk to the center of the lane....I warned you.
• Autopilot reads lines the best, if cones or barrels are used to mark the lane.....I would not trust it.
• If someone cuts off right in front of you, autopilot will not slow down to keep the distance unless it detects the car is slowing down or not accelerating....huge +++.
• Autopilot is a very defensive system, could probably be classified as an asshole driver.

Phantom Braking:

Now to the reason why I think Tesla should rename autopilot and FSD. I experienced probably 10-15 incidents, I don't know if this is software or lack of clean cameras. I plan on making sure the cameras are clean, but I do want to mention them just in case. Out of all those, I think only 5 were problematic, the rest I could see someone also breaking/slowing down. The majority of these incidences were just the car "letting of the gas" and then realizing and goes back to speed, so it only dropped a few mph. But I want to call out the 5 cases where the car slowed down a lot and if someone was behind me, it could have been bad:

• On an interchange, two lanes from each highway coming together. I was in the slow lane of the two lanes, coming from the left, the other two lanes were coming from the right. There was also a transition from concrete (light) to asphalt (fresh, very black). Autopilot slowed down right were the merge and asphalt all came together, no other cars except for my wife following about 200 meters back. I think the huge color change triggered the car to freakout.
• The was a turn on the highway and there was an overpass that went over the highway in the middle of the turn. No cars around except my wife following. I think the shadow and the fact that it come from the exact front of the car, it freaked out a bit.
• Similar to above but with an exit sign thing that spanned over.
• I was in the slow lane and there was a on ramp that turned into a third lane. That on ramp was also on of those long swooping on ramps. As I was coming up to it there was a semi in that merging lane. It seemed like autopilot did "see" the semi and then it started seeing it and freaked out.
• This last one is a worrying one, open straight away with nothing around.....nothing and it just did it....*shrug*

Those 5 cases, a human would have have been able to successfully distinguish those situations, and handled them correctly. For this reason it is hard for me to believe that FSD is "two weeks away"

Before I got my car I was kind of annoyed that Tesla didn't offer Enhanced Autopilot anymore because I wanted the auto lan change on the highway, now I am not sure how much I would use that feature, not sure if I would be able to trust it.

Overall, it was an amazing experience and I love it. I think with autopilot and stopping more...I wasn't burnt out when I got home. Even with those issues, I would still take autopilot everyday, it made driving enjoyable and not as draining. However, you have to pay attention 100% of the time, it is not in control, it is assisting you.

Tesla still needs to figure out their customer service issue, I half expected to get to St Louis and have Tesla tell me it isn't ready, I wasn't as excited as I thought I would be. Instead I felt bloodied and exhausted by whole ordeal, but that feeling has been waning and I am getting the joy back.

awesome write up, and glad you got it and getting your joy back!

 

[ajs847]

FSD may be a complete misnomer, since Tesla can't get their EDD logistics algorithm good. Given that, how could you trust their FSD ???

10000000% agree with this, if Tesla can't get something as simple as EDD's right, how can we trust their Premier AI based product?

 

[DaveGT]

I nabbed the Black one in the wee hours of today. Can't believe it actually went thru. EDD 9/2-9/5

ah so you were the one who got it, I was also trying to nab it, congrats!

 

[eleven24]

Anyone know who it is that calls to schedule delivery? The DC? Tesla Logistics? Was told yesterday when I stopped by that my car would be in on Sept 7. Have a few missed calls from unknown numbers due to having to actually work today, so just wondering what I should be looking out for.

 

[azavega]

Still on October... Long wait... Waiting to see if anyone here goes out of the October state...

 

[ajs847]

Anyone know who it is that calls to schedule delivery? The DC? Tesla Logistics? Was told yesterday when I stopped by that my car would be in on Sept 7. Have a few missed calls from unknown numbers due to having to actually work today, so just wondering what I should be looking out for.

if you have your cellphone listed in your tesla profile they text you a link to schedule delivery, as I got.

 

[Anteojito]

pretty sure @CSTARZZ is somewhere in Miami still ordering bottle service celebrating his VIN and forthcoming delivery.

He hasn’t posted since Friday at 8:52 AM Forum: Model Y: Ordering, Production, Delivery
Something must be up.

 

[CarDano]

Yup, same here. Still 'October'. April order.

Me too. EDD October. 5/31 OD and profile completion.

 

[chand]

Just trying to understand how often updates happen. Did it show "october" in the morning and just updated with VIN now?

@Coyote18 has been sitting on a < 20 days EDD range for a while, VIN was around corner, October was just a glitch I believe.

Me with a common 20 days EDD range(9/6-9/26) before being pushed out to October; just hoping I get pulled back into Q3 miraculously.

 

[ImperfectTes]

For those who have delivery set or picked up, did you have to pick a delivery time or was one set for you?
I just refreshed my account to see if MVPA was available and I see a delivery appointment set for 9/15 12 noon. It showed a window before I refreshed. Prior to that, I called the 888 number to confirm my final number since the tax wasn't showing the trade in and the agent said the MVPA would generate with the correct info and to just keep an eye for new docs. He said car should leaving CA for AL soon and scheduled to be at SC on the 13th. Not sure if he set the delivery or my MIA SA did.
Time to start checking items off the Amazon wish list.

 

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[kmac301]

Happy VINday. After 109 days the VIN came in Sunday evening via email and order page. Currently scheduled for a 9/15 pickup.
OD 5/12. EDD was holding strong for the past couple weeks at 9/15-9/30, updated for a day to 9/13-9/20 then VIN hit.

 

[DaveGT]

if you have your cellphone listed in your tesla profile they text you a link to schedule delivery, as I got.

so I decided to double check my profile, and looks like a fat fingered and added an extra 0 into my number, well got that fixed now. wouldn't have even checked if you didn't post.

 

[ajs847]

@Coyote18 has been sitting on a < 20 days EDD range for a while, VIN was around corner, October was just a glitch I believe.

Me with a common 20 days EDD range(9/6-9/26) before being pushed out to October; just hoping I get pulled back into Q3 miraculously.

I sat at a 12 day range from current to closest EDD date for almost a month with EDD range of 12-17 days for almost a month before getting a vin. Some have got their vin as soon as their range narrows, others have had to wait longer than me for it to finally happen.

It's torture to watch your EDD range stay consistently small but keep pushing out one day at a time and then for random 5-7 day pushbacks to happen.

DON'T TRUST THE EDD'S.

 

[te$laWhy]

Last week my EDD for my Model Y Performance was listed as: September 9-21. Recently this changed to show: Estimated in 4-5 weeks.

Congrats, if you ordered a P it's probably already waiting outside in your driveway.

Jealous joking aside, this often happens over weekends and at month and quarter ends.

 

[chand]

He hasn’t posted since Friday at 8:52 AM Forum: Model Y: Ordering, Production, Delivery
Something must be up.

Agree, he has not checked in, very unlike him. His had scheduled delivery this Friday.

 

[ajs847]

For those who have delivery set or picked up, did you have to pick a delivery time or was one set for you?
I just refreshed my account to see if MVPA was available and I see a delivery appointment set for 9/15 12 noon. It showed a window before I refreshed. Prior to that, I called the 888 number to confirm my final number since the tax wasn't showing the trade in and the agent said the MVPA would generate with the correct info and to just keep an eye for new docs. He said car should leaving CA for AL soon and scheduled to be at SC on the 13th. Not sure if he set the delivery or my MIA SA did.
Time to start checking items off the Amazon wish list.

got a text from a 510 number that its my turn to schedule delivery and the link took me a page with a 3 day window wednesday - friday.

 

[sarahlectric]

Anyone know who it is that calls to schedule delivery? The DC? Tesla Logistics? Was told yesterday when I stopped by that my car would be in on Sept 7. Have a few missed calls from unknown numbers due to having to actually work today, so just wondering what I should be looking out for.

When my car was ready, my SA called me personally, and I already had her cell phone number in my contacts so I knew it was her calling. Some people get texted links (I'm assuming if you don't have an already-established connection with an SA).

If you get missed calls from random numbers and they *don't* leave a VM I would assume that it's not Tesla calling. Buuuut I would start answering those calls anyway!