Tam
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Where does it say GPS is “purposely degraded” ?
I’m well aware of GPS accuracy etc otherwise.
"Selective Availability (SA) was an intentional degradation of public GPS signals implemented for national security reasons."
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Where does it say GPS is “purposely degraded” ?
I’m well aware of GPS accuracy etc otherwise.
"Selective Availability (SA) was an intentional degradation of public GPS signals implemented for national security reasons."
Nobody is apologizing here.I dunno, people pay $10k for this feature set and then apologize for it day in & day out, I don't get it.
We should demand better from Tesla if we want better.
I’m sorry, but no. The autopilot system should not rely on GPS coordinates alone to determine autopilot behavior. It read speed limit signs seconds before, on the same road, sees traffic traveling at 70mph, the whole story of autopilot is supposed to be that it takes a lot of different inputs and makes a data-correlation decision which is highly accurate to reality. But what I’m seeing is that this is not the case at all. All it takes is a GPS location error, and the car will then instantly decelerate from 70 to 15mph—this is not user error, this is not simply GPS error. This is a fatal flaw in the implementation of the system.There are times and places where GPS is purposely degraded. GPS is not full-proof and the car is not at fault.
How about changing the title to: HAD TO TAKE OVER FROM AUTOPILOT ON THE FREEWAY WHEN I DIDN'T WANT TO
I hear you—I ride this highway everyday, not usually an issue.I've seen this happen with maps that are not updated for road changes on Interstate 75 between Bradenton and Sarasota Florida. Once you see it once, you know it is going to be a problem area, and I disengage Autopilot until it realizes it is back on 75. Safe thing to do is disengage AP.
Could that be it's just a very rare bug that is not easily reproducible?I hear you—I ride this highway everyday, not usually an issue.
I’m sorry. it seems the post was not well received, I did not want a spectacle, I talk to my car and bike all the time…not for video only, I’m latin, it’s normal to talk to inanimate objects that are acting crazy and to exaggerate a little bi….didn’t mean to upset people….after the sudden deceleration, I turned AP off, and then turned it back on to get a video of how crazy it was acting so I could prove to Tesla service what was happening because they often can’t reproduce errors and if you have no evidence they don’t do anything…then I decided to post here to see if anyone had seen this before because I anticipate Tesla service won’t do anything and it will be up to me to fix or find a workaround…people here assume the worst, weirdof course, but the in the video he makes it sound like it's driving him to his death, and his post is literally "i almost died on the highway [thanks to tesla]" .. we all experience crazy events, but if my car starts decelerating, I naturally hit the gas to keep the car going where I want it to, if it keeps doing it, I turn AP off an manually drive, I don't keep it going and claim that it's super difficult to keep pressing the gas.. same thing if I turn off AP and TACC takes over and accelerates, I sense that it's doing what I don't want it to do and hit the paddle up to turn it off before the car does something I don't want it to do.
You did the right thing to post the incident otherwise, people would think that it was all fake....weird...
this is a common argument on this board, I don’t get it. Talking about it on a forum is not mutually exclusive to lodging a formal service ticket and maybe writing directly to Tesla, both of which I will do. As a consumer, I’m not sure I can do much more, short of litigating, and I’m not disposed to do that. I’m not engaging in magical thinking. I’m engaging in a discussion with Tesla owners from around the world that also may have experienced similar issues and could perhaps teach me a thing or two. I’ve learned so much from this board already“If only we shout more in forums it will all be better” is just magical thinking.
Thanks for saying that. Hey, we have the same cars!You did the right thing to post the incident otherwise, people would think that it was all fake.
Despite how people think about the video, I think it is informative, and it does have value so that we could analyze it and understand what went wrong then learn from it.
I do thank you for your effort.
we (the industry) are mostly at the whim and mercy of ublox.BTW - given how important GPS is for AP/FSD, Tesla should use more accurate dual frequency GPS.
This is valid and appreciate you taking the time to replyI’m sorry. it seems the post was not well received, I did not want a spectacle, I talk to my car and bike all the time…not for video only, I’m latin, it’s normal to talk to inanimate objects that are acting crazy and to exaggerate a little bi….didn’t mean to upset people….after the sudden deceleration, I turned AP off, and then turned it back on to get a video of how crazy it was acting so I could prove to Tesla service what was happening because they often can’t reproduce errors and if you have no evidence they don’t do anything…then I decided to post here to see if anyone had seen this before because I anticipate Tesla service won’t do anything and it will be up to me to fix or find a workaround…people here assume the worst, weird
If Elon wants he can easily get companies manufacturing high precision gps in volume. ESP. Public companies would find it highly desirable to be associated with Tesla …we (the industry) are mostly at the whim and mercy of ublox.
that's all I'm gonna say.
Mod changed the title - if you had started with this title, hardly anyone would argue with you. Nobody is saying it’s not a bug .. and Phantom braking is the top bug Tesla is dealing with anyway.this is a common argument on this board, I don’t get it. Talking about it on a forum is not mutually exclusive to lodging a formal service ticket and maybe writing directly to Tesla, both of which I will do. As a consumer, I’m not sure I can do much more, short of litigating, and I’m not disposed to do that. I’m not engaging in magical thinking. I’m engaging in a discussion with Tesla owners from around the world that also may have experienced similar issues and could perhaps teach me a thing or two. I’ve learned so much from this board already