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The last couple of days, it was there, and added to the price if I chose Plaid. This raised the plaid price by $6,500.

Now it's gone when I choose Plaid and only there if I choose the base model X, which I suspect is where it's supposed to be. The Plaid price is back to where it was.

It is still there for Other europe, try Estonia. Maybe it means only some countries will get the 7-seat option for Plaid?
 
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At least your advisor answers the phone and or responds, plunking down almost 100K and get ignored....what a joke.
You’re not alone. My so called “SA” is a ghost who’s been asked multiple times to contact me - I just walk up to the SC and look for him and they leave internal messages. Not a single call or IM in the 3 weeks I needed to speak to a human. Either the company culture is to actively ignore unhappy customers or this guy has got to be out of a job soon
 
Any update on this situation? I'm in the same boat...spoke with SC and they couldn't help. They said they raised the issue with Tesla and that I'll be getting a call.
Nope. SC said they left a message for the manager to call me back during business hours on Monday. Sales Advisor texted me back and said he’ll look into it. Tesla 1888 service line (3 agents, a transfer and 2 “disconnections” 🙄 later), “daphne” said there’s nothing anyone can do and told me to accept the price change or cancel. Apparently she’s also the end all be all cus she said she has no manager and can’t refer me to anyone else to escalate this issue. TBH, at this price point, another $5k is no big deal but this whole experience is upsetting.

Update: so apparently Daphne is REALLY the end all be all. She called me back and said they can resolve it internally and to wait for an updated email. 🙌
 
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I am interested in buying a model x with no upgrades to take advantage of pos federal rebate. I have been stalking all the threads on here. I am ready to pull trigger so I called local tesla store (colorado) and they said I would be getting a 2023 and that pos is not available I would just have to claim at end of year…..
 
I am interested in buying a model x with no upgrades to take advantage of pos federal rebate. I have been stalking all the threads on here. I am ready to pull trigger so I called local tesla store (colorado) and they said I would be getting a 2023 and that pos is not available I would just have to claim at end of year…..
That's not what the tax code says...jy1783

When a buyer chooses to transfer the credit, registered dealers will reduce the purchase price of the vehicle or provide cash to the buyer. The amount provided must equal the full amount of the credit available for the eligible vehicle. When completing the sale, the dealer will electronically submit information regarding the transfer, including a time of sale report, to receive an advance payment for the value of the credit. The IRS expects to issue advance payments within 72 hours.


U.S. Department of the Treasury, IRS Release Guidance to Expand Access to Clean Vehicle Tax Credits, Help Car Dealers Grow Businesses​


October 6, 2023
Starting in January Inflation Reduction Act Provision Will Allow Consumers to Transfer Credit to Car Dealer, Reducing Purchase Price of New and Previously Owned Clean Vehicles at Time of Sale
WASHINGTON – As part of Bidenomics and the Biden-Harris Administration’s Investing in America agenda, the U.S. Department of the Treasury and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) today released guidance that will lower costs for consumers and help car dealers grow their businesses by increasing access to Inflation Reduction Act credits at point of sale for new and previously owned clean vehicles. Researchers have found that consumers overwhelmingly prefer an immediate rebate at point of sale.
Under the Inflation Reduction Act, consumers can choose to transfer their new clean vehicle credit of up to $7,500 and their previously owned clean vehicle credit of up to $4,000 to a car dealer starting January 1, 2024. This will effectively lower the vehicle’s purchase price by providing consumers with an upfront down payment on their clean vehicle at the point of sale, rather than having to wait to claim their credit on their tax return the next year. Only vehicles purchased under the consumer clean vehicle credits are eligible for this benefit.
Today’s guidance provides additional information on registration requirements and how the mechanics of this transfer will work for car dealers. The guidance also provides proposed eligibility rules for the previously owned clean vehicle credit that would give consumers more certainty regarding their ability to claim and to transfer the credit. The guidance would clarify that eligible consumers may transfer the full value of the new or previously owned vehicle credit regardless of their individual tax liability.
“President Biden’s Investing in America agenda is focused on lowering transportation costs for consumers and giving American car companies the tools to lead the market,” said Chief Implementation Officer for the Inflation Reduction Act Laurel Blatchford. “For the first time, the Inflation Reduction Act allows consumers to reduce the up-front cost of a clean vehicle, expanding consumer choices and helping car dealers expand their businesses. The IRS has focused on streamlining this process for car dealers as part of its commitment to improving service and helping taxpayers claim the credits they are eligible for.”
Later this month, dealers will be able to register via IRS Energy Credits Online, a new website. This registration is a requirement for dealers to offer consumers clean energy tax credits for qualifying electrified products. Starting in January, registered dealers will be able to submit clean vehicle sales information to the IRS and promptly receive payment for transferred credits. Energy Credits Online demonstrates the IRS’ commitment to delivering a world-class customer service experience and helping taxpayers receive the credits and deductions they are eligible for.
A modern tax administration system is key to achieving the economic, energy security, and climate goals of the Inflation Reduction Act.
For buyers to be eligible to claim or transfer a credit starting January 1, 2024, the dealer they purchase their vehicle from must first register with Energy Credits Online. Dealers will also use Energy Credits Online to submit “time of sale” reports, which will confirm vehicles’ eligibility for a credit, whether or not the buyer chooses to transfer the credit to the dealer.
When a buyer chooses to transfer the credit, registered dealers will reduce the purchase price of the vehicle or provide cash to the buyer. The amount provided must equal the full amount of the credit available for the eligible vehicle. When completing the sale, the dealer will electronically submit information regarding the transfer, including a time of sale report, to receive an advance payment for the value of the credit. The IRS expects to issue advance payments within 72 hours.

To provide clarity and certainty, the dealer will provide buyers with required disclosures as part of the credit transfer and electronic time-of-sale submission process and with written confirmation that the vehicle they’re buying is eligible for a credit and the credit amount.
Today’s guidance proposes rules regarding who is eligible to elect to transfer the credit to the dealer, and under what circumstances these taxpayers may have to pay back some of the transferred credit.
Consumers may transfer the credit if they attest that they believe they are eligible, including that they fell below the applicable income thresholds in the prior year or expect to be below these thresholds in the year the vehicle is placed in service. Consumers will need to directly repay the full value of a transferred tax credit to the IRS when filing their taxes if they exceed the applicable modified adjusted gross income limitation.
The guidance also would include important safeguards to help prevent fraud or abuse. These measures would help ensure only verified, tax-compliant dealers will get the benefit of advance payments from the IRS and only eligible vehicles will get the benefit of the credit. These measures would collect and verify information received from the dealer during the IRS Energy Credits Online dealer registration process. A registration ID is provided to the dealer only once the IRS is confident in validity of the registration. Fact sheets, FAQs, checklists and other materials for consumers and dealers will be made available before the end of the year.
Today’s guidance would also provide clarity regarding the federal income tax treatment of the transferred credit and advance payment for the buyer and the dealer. Under the proposed rules, credit transfers and advance payments would generally not affect dealers’ tax liability. Payment of the value of the transferred credit by the dealer to the consumer would be treated as repaid by the consumer to the dealer as part of the purchase price of the vehicle, and therefore be treated as an amount realized by the dealer.
Advance payments received by the dealer would not be treated as a tax credit to the dealer and may exceed the dealer’s regular tax liability. Advance payments received by the dealer would not be includible in the gross income of the dealer. The payment made by the dealer to the consumer in exchange for the transferred credit would not be deductible by the dealer. The payment made by the dealer to the consumer (in the form of a cash payment, down payment, or partial down payment) would not be includible in the gross income of the consumer.
 
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Nope. SC said they left a message for the manager to call me back during business hours on Monday. Sales Advisor texted me back and said he’ll look into it. Tesla 1888 service line (3 agents, a transfer and 2 “disconnections” 🙄 later), “daphne” said there’s nothing anyone can do and told me to accept the price change or cancel. Apparently she’s also the end all be all cus she said she has no manager and can’t refer me to anyone else to escalate this issue. TBH, at this price point, another $5k is no big deal but this whole experience is upsetting.
I think one solution is asking SC to match your order to any same configuration cars in inventory. I think they still have plenty of 2023 VIN. If you only want 2024 VIN with upgraded EPA then only option is accepting the updated price. Or you can sue Tesla like folks did with solar roof when they significantly increased the original order cost.
 
In an article I read there was a statement the new EPA system specifically goes into effect with model year 2024 vehicles - so perhaps a clue that all of us needing to update our order - will indeed receive 2024 model year. Now if we can just figure out the comfort and functionality changes they mention in the email.
 
I just sent my SA the following note: I am choosing to transfer the $7500 tax credit at the point of sale per IRS regulation, https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-23-33.pdf effective 1 January 2024. I have already notified my lender as well.
QUOTE FROM TAX CODE:
(c) The dealer,
not later than at the time of sale, must have paid the taxpayer (whether in cash or in the form of a partial payment or down payment for the purchase of such vehicle) an amount equal to the § 30D credit otherwise allowable to such taxpayer.


More info:

Transfer of Credit under Sections 30D and 25E from Taxpayer to Eligible Entity and


Updated Requirements for Qualified Manufacturers and Sellers.


Rev. Proc. 2023-33


SECTION 1. PURPOSE


This revenue procedure sets forth the procedures under §§ 30D(g) and 25E(f) of the


Internal Revenue Code (Code)1 for the transfer of the clean vehicle credit or previously-


owned clean vehicle credit from the taxpayer who elects to transfer such credit to an


eligible entity. These procedures will apply to transfers of credits after December 31,


2023. These procedures include registration procedures with the Internal Revenue


Service (IRS) for qualified manufacturers and sellers, as well as procedures for dealer


registration and the suspension and revocation of that registration. This revenue


procedure also establishes a program to make advance payments of credit amounts to


registered dealers. In addition, this revenue procedure supersedes sections 5.01 and


6.03 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42, 2022-52 I.R.B. 565, providing new information for the timing


1 Unless otherwise specified, all “Section” or “§” references are to sections of the Code.2


and manner of submission of seller reports, respectively. Finally, this revenue


procedure supersedes sections 6.01 and 6.02 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42, providing updated


information on submission of written agreements by manufacturers to the IRS to be


considered qualified manufacturers, as well as the method of submission of monthly


reports by qualified manufacturers.


SECTION 2. BACKGROUND


.01 Section 30D, Clean Vehicle Credit


(1) Section 30D was enacted by § 205(a) of the Energy Improvement and


Extension Act of 2008, Division B of Public Law 110-343, 122 Stat. 3765, 3835 (October


3, 2008), to provide a credit for purchasing and placing in service new qualified plug-in


electric drive motor vehicles. Section 30D has been amended several times since its


enactment, most recently by § 13401 of Public Law 117-169, 136 Stat. 1818 (August


16, 2022), commonly known as the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 (IRA). In general,


the amendments made by § 13401 of the IRA to § 30D apply to vehicles placed in


service after December 31, 2022, except as provided in § 13401(k)(2) through (5) of the


IRA.


(2) Section 30D(a) allows a credit for the taxable year with respect to each new


clean vehicle placed in service by a taxpayer during the taxable year (§ 30D credit).


Section 30D(b) provides a maximum credit of $7,500 per vehicle, consisting of $3,750 if


certain critical minerals requirements are met and $3,750 if certain battery components


requirements are met. These requirements are described in § 30D(e)(1) and (2),


respectively.


(3) Section 30D(g) allows the taxpayer to elect to transfer the § 30D credit in3


certain situations. Specifically, § 30D(g)(1) provides that, subject to such regulations or


other guidance as the Secretary of the Treasury or her delegate (Secretary) determines


necessary, a taxpayer may elect to transfer a § 30D credit with respect to a new clean


vehicle to an eligible entity (transfer election). If the taxpayer who acquires a new clean


vehicle makes a transfer election with respect to such vehicle, the § 30D(a) credit that


would otherwise be allowed to such taxpayer with respect to such vehicle is allowed to


the eligible entity specified in such election (and not the taxpayer). Section 30D(g)(2)


defines an “eligible entity” with respect to the vehicle for which the § 30D credit is


allowed as the dealer that sold such vehicle to the taxpayer and that satisfies the


following four requirements of § 30D(g)(2)(A) through (D) set forth in section 2.01(3)(a)


through (d) of this revenue procedure:


(a) The dealer, subject to § 30D(g)(4), must be registered with the IRS for


purposes of § 30D(g)(2), at such time, and in such form and manner, as the Secretary


prescribes.


(b) The dealer, prior to the transfer election and not later than at the time of sale,


must have disclosed to the taxpayer purchasing such vehicle:


(i) The manufacturer's suggested retail price,


(ii) The value of the § 30D credit allowed and any other incentive available for


the purchase of such vehicle, and


(iii) The amount provided by the dealer to such taxpayer as a condition of the


transfer election.


(c) The dealer, not later than at the time of sale, must have paid the taxpayer


(whether in cash or in the form of a partial payment or down payment for the purchase4


of such vehicle) an amount equal to the § 30D credit otherwise allowable to such


taxpayer.


(d) The dealer, with respect to any incentive otherwise available for the purchase


of a vehicle for which a § 30D credit is allowed under § 30D(a), including any incentive


in the form of a rebate or discount provided by the dealer or manufacturer, must have


ensured that:


(i) The availability or use of such incentive does not limit the ability of a


taxpayer to make a transfer election, and


(ii) Such election does not limit the value or use of such incentive.


(4) Section 30D(g)(3) addresses the timing of the election and provides that any


transfer election cannot be made by the taxpayer any later than the date on which the


vehicle for which the § 30D credit is allowed is purchased.


(5) Section 30D(g)(4) provides that, upon determination that a dealer has failed to


comply with the requirements described in § 30D(g)(2), the dealer’s registration may be


revoked.


(6) Section 30D(g)(5) provides that, with respect to any payment described in


§ 30D(g)(2)(C), such payment is not includible in the gross income of the taxpayer and


is not deductible with respect to the dealer.


(7) Section 30D(g)(6) addresses the application of certain other requirements to


the transfer election and provides that in the case of any transfer election with respect to


any vehicle: (A) the basis reduction and no double benefit requirements of § 30D(f)(1)


and (2) apply to the taxpayer who acquired the vehicle in the same manner as if the


§ 30D credit determined with respect to such vehicle were allowed to such taxpayer;5


(B) the election in § 30D(f)(6) to not take the § 30D credit does not apply; and (C) the


vehicle identification number (VIN) requirement of § 30D(f)(9) is treated as satisfied if


the eligible entity provides the VIN of such vehicle to the IRS in such manner as the


Secretary may provide.


(8) Section 30D(g)(7)(A) authorizes the Secretary to establish a program to make


advance payments to registered dealers in an amount equal to the cumulative amount


of the § 30D credits allowed under § 30D(a) with respect to any vehicles sold by such


entity for which a transfer election has been made. Section 30D(g)(7)(B) details that


rules similar to the rules of § 6417(d)(6) apply for purposes of any excessive payments,


and § 30D(g)(7)(C) provides that, for purposes of 31 U.S.C. 1324, the payments under


§ 30D(g)(7)(A) are treated in the same manner as a refund due from a credit provision


referred to in 31 U.S.C. 1324(b)(2).



(9) Section 30D(g)(8) defines the term “dealer” as a person licensed by a State, the


District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, any other territory or


possession of the United States, an Indian tribal government, or any Alaska Native


Corporation (as defined in § 3 of the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act (43 U.S.C.


1602(m)) to engage in the sale of vehicles. Section 30D(g)(9) defines the term “Indian


tribal government” as the recognized governing body of any Indian or Alaska Native


tribe, band, nation, pueblo, village, community, component band, or component


reservation, individually identified (including parenthetically) in the list published most


recently as of the date of enactment of § 30D(g) (that is, August 16, 2022) pursuant to


§ 104 of the Federally Recognized Indian Tribe List Act of 1994 (25 U.S.C. 5131).


(10) Section 30D(g)(10) provides that, in the case of any taxpayer who has made a6


transfer election with respect to a new clean vehicle and received a payment from an


eligible entity, if the § 30D credit would otherwise (but for § 30D(g)) not be allowable to


such taxpayer pursuant to the application of the limitation based on modified adjusted


gross income in § 30D(f)(10), the income tax imposed on such taxpayer under chapter 1


of the Code for the taxable year in which such vehicle was placed in service must be


increased by the amount of the payment received by such taxpayer.


(11) Section 13401(k)(4) of the IRA provides that the ability for a taxpayer to elect


to transfer a § 30D credit under § 30D(g) applies to vehicles placed in service after


December 31, 2023.


.02 Section 25E, Previously-Owned Clean Vehicles Credit


(1) Section 13402 of the IRA added § 25E to the Code. Section 25E(a) provides


that, in the case of a qualified buyer who during a taxable year places in service a


previously-owned clean vehicle, an income tax credit is allowed for the taxable year


equal to the lesser of: (1) $4,000, or (2) the amount equal to 30 percent of the sale price


with respect to such vehicle (§ 25E credit).


(2) Section 25E(c)(1) defines “previously-owned clean vehicle”, with respect to a


taxpayer, as a motor vehicle that satisfies the following requirements:


(a) The model year of the motor vehicle is at least 2 years earlier than the


calendar year in which the taxpayer acquires such vehicle.


(b) The original use of the motor vehicle commences with a person other than


the taxpayer.


(c) The motor vehicle is acquired by the taxpayer in a qualified sale.


(d) The motor vehicle:7


(i) Meets the requirements of § 30D(d)(1)(C), (D), (E), (F), and (H) (except for


§ 30D(d)(1)(H)(iv)), or


(ii) Is a motor vehicle that (I) satisfies the requirements under § 30B(b)(3)(A) and


(B), and (II) has a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 14,000 pounds.


(3) Section 25E(c)(2) defines a “qualified sale” as a sale of a motor vehicle:


(i) By a dealer (as defined in § 30D(g)(8)),


(ii) For a sale price that does not exceed $25,000, and


(iii) That is the first transfer since the date of enactment to a qualified buyer other


than the person with whom the original use of such vehicle commenced.


(4) Section 25E(c)(3) defines the term “qualified buyer” for purposes of § 25E as a


taxpayer:


(a) Who is an individual,


(b) Who purchases such vehicle for use and not for resale,


(c) With respect to whom no deduction is allowable with respect to another


taxpayer under § 151, and


(d) Who has not been allowed a § 25E credit for any sale of a motor vehicle


during the 3-year period ending on the date of the sale of the previously-owned clean


vehicle.


(5) Section 25E(c)(4) defines “motor vehicle” and “capacity” to have the meaning


given such terms in § 30D(d)(2) and (4), respectively.


(6) Section 25E(d) provides that no credit is allowed under § 25(a) with respect to


any vehicle unless the taxpayer includes the vehicle identification number of such


vehicle on the return of tax for the taxable year.8


(7) Section 25E(f) provides that rules similar to § 30D(g) apply to the transfer of a


§ 25E credit for previously-owned vehicles (thus, a taxpayer also may elect to transfer a


§ 25E credit). For purposes of this revenue procedure, the program established under


§§ 30D(g)(7)(A) and 25E(f) to make advance payments of amounts of § 30D credits and


§ 25E credits to registered dealers with respect to eligible clean vehicles sold by such


dealers for which a taxpayer makes a transfer election is referred to as the “advance


payment program.”


(8) Section 13402(e)(2) of the IRA provides that the ability of a taxpayer to elect to


transfer a § 25E credit under § 25E(f) applies to vehicles acquired after December 31,


2023.


.03 Revenue Procedure 2022-42.


(1) Revenue Procedure 2022-42, in relevant part, established procedures for


qualified manufacturers to enter into written agreements with the IRS in accordance with


§§ 30D(d)(1)(C) and 30D(d)(3), and procedures for persons selling vehicles to submit


seller reports to the IRS.


(2) Sections 4.01 and 4.03 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 provide, respectively, that a


manufacturer must enter into a written agreement with the IRS to become a qualified


manufacturer and must submit written reports to the IRS containing required


information.


(3) Section 5.01 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 provides, in relevant part, that the seller of


a clean vehicle must submit to the Secretary a seller report containing certain


information within fifteen (15) days of the end of the calendar year in which the sale


occurs. Section 6.03 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 provides that, beginning January 15, 2024,9


seller reports must be filed with the IRS within fifteen days after the end of the calendar


year in which the sale occurs in a format and method that the Secretary provides.


(4) Section 6.01 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 provides that manufacturers must send


their signed written agreements pursuant to section 4.01 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 to


[email protected]. Section 6.02 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42


provides, in relevant part, that qualified manufacturers must file written monthly reports


with the IRS by the fifteenth of the month. Qualified manufacturers must send an email


to [email protected] indicating their intent to submit monthly


reports and the IRS will respond with instructions on how to submit their reporting


information.


.04 Transfer Election and Advance Payment Program Procedural Requirements.


The procedural rules described in this Revenue Procedure are designed in part to


ensure program integrity. In particular, advance payment of the § 30D and § 25E


credits poses unique compliance challenges, since such advance payments are not


subject to the same tax administration procedures that apply to claiming a credit via


return filing. Furthermore, participation in the credit transfer and advance payment


program is optional. The transfer of § 30D and § 25E credits is elective on the part of


the taxpayer, and the eligible entity can decide whether to offer to the taxpayer the


ability to transfer the § 30D and § 25E credits (thereby participating in the advance


payment program). Taxpayers instead may choose to wait and claim a § 30D or § 25E


credit on the taxpayer’s return. Section 30D(g)(1) provides that a taxpayer election to


transfer the § 30D credit is subject to the regulations or other guidance that the


Secretary determines necessary. Section 30D(g)(7) instructs the Secretary to establish10


a program for making advance payments to eligible entities – that is, a program to make


payments to the eligible entity before the eligible entity files its Federal income tax


return for the relevant taxable year. Section 25E(f) provides that, for purposes of § 25E,


rules similar to the rules of § 30D(g) apply. Taken together, these provisions provide


authority for the Secretary to establish the parameters and conditions of the transfer


election and the accompanying advance payment program for those taxpayers and


eligible entities that choose to participate, in furtherance of sound tax administration.


SECTION 3. DEFINITIONS


.01 In General. Terms used in this revenue procedure and not defined in section 3


of this revenue procedure have the same meaning as provided in §§ 30D and 25E, the


proposed regulations thereunder, and the final regulations thereunder (once issued).


.02 IRS Energy Credits Online Portal. For purposes of this revenue procedure, the


“IRS Energy Credits Online Portal” refers to the registration portal that manufacturers


and sellers must use to register as a qualified manufacturer, seller, or registered dealer.


A link to the site will be made available on the IRS website. Any successor portal or


successor site address will be announced and made available on the IRS website.


.03 Seller. For purposes of this revenue procedure, “seller” means, for purposes of


§ 30D, the person who sells any new clean vehicle to the taxpayer, or, for purposes of


§ 25E, the dealer (as defined in § 30D(g)(8)) who sells any previously-owned clean


vehicle to the taxpayer.


SECTION 4. REGISTRATION THROUGH THE ENERGY CREDITS ONLINE PORTAL


.01 Overview of Registration Requirements. This section 4 sets out the registration


requirements with the IRS for various aspects of the Energy Credits Online Portal for11


manufacturers, sellers, and dealers. As a preliminary matter, manufacturers, sellers,


and dealers must all register through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal, as detailed


in section 4.02 of this revenue procedure. Manufacturers who wish to become qualified


manufacturers must follow the registration procedures in sections 4.02(1) of this


revenue procedure. Sellers who are required to submit seller reports must follow the


registration procedures in section 4.02(2) of this revenue procedure. Sellers who wish


to become registered dealers and participate in the advance payment program must


follow the registration procedures in section 4.02(3) of this revenue procedure. A


dealer, as defined is § 30D(g)(8) and the regulations thereunder, must follow the


registration requirements in sections 4.02(2) and 4.02(3) of this revenue procedure to


become a registered dealer and participate in the advance payment program.


.02 Registration through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal


(1) Qualified Manufacturer Registration through the IRS Energy Credits Online


Portal.
An individual representative of the manufacturer must register through the IRS


Energy Credits Online Portal and provide the required information to request to become


a qualified manufacturer, consistent with section 4.01(1) of Revenue Procedure 2022-


42. The manufacturer’s representative will need to sign in or create an account on


irs.gov in order to verify the manufacturer’s business tax information and register. Help


related to the IRS identity verification process can be found on the sign-in page or at


www.irs.gov/registerhelp. This individual representative of the manufacturer must be


currently authorized to legally bind the manufacturer in these matters. Starting


December 2023, a manufacturer will be able to authorize more than one employee to


make representations on its behalf through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal.12


(2) Seller Registration through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal. An individual


representative of the seller must register through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal


and provide the required information. The seller’s representative will need to sign in or


create an account on irs.gov to verify the seller’s business tax information and register.


Help related to the IRS identity verification process can be found on the sign-in page or


at www.irs.gov/registerhelp. This individual representative of the seller must be currently


authorized to legally bind the seller in these matters. Starting December 2023, a seller


will be able to authorize more than one employee to make representations on its behalf


through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal. At the time of registration through the


IRS Energy Credits Online Portal, a seller must provide the information listed in section


4.02(2)(a) through (c) and (f) of this revenue procedure and make certifications listed in


section 4.02(d) and (e) of this revenue procedure:


(a) Seller name, business address, phone number, and email address.


(b) Seller Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) or Employer Identification


Number (EIN).


(c) Proof of a State, District of Columbia, Indian tribal government, or Alaska


Native Corporation issued license to sell vehicles (for § 25E sellers).


(d) Certification that, in the event a buyer returns a vehicle within 30 days of the


time of sale, the seller will update the seller report.


(e) In the case of a previously-owned clean vehicle, certification that the seller


will provide each taxpayer with the following information:


(i) That the model year of the vehicle is at least two years prior to the calendar


year of sale; and13


(ii) That the transfer is the first transfer of the vehicle since August 16, 2022, to


a person other than the person with whom the original use of such vehicle commenced,


excluding transfers to or between dealers.


(f) Such other information as may be required by the IRS Energy Credits Online


Portal.


(3) Dealer Registration through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal. An


individual representative of the dealer must register through the IRS Energy Credits


Online Portal to become an eligible entity that can participate in the advance payment


program. The dealer’s representative will need to sign in or create an account on


irs.gov to verify the dealer’s business tax information and register. Help related to the


IRS identity verification process can be found on the sign-in page or at


www.irs.gov/registerhelp. The registration and each certification must be completed by


an individual representative of the dealer who is currently authorized to legally bind the


dealer in these matters. Starting December 2023, a dealer will be able to authorize


more than one employee to make representations on its behalf through the IRS Energy


Credits Online Portal. A dealer must register at least 15 days prior to being able to


receive any advance payments described in section 8 of this revenue procedure. A


dealer may register through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal at any time after the


publication of this revenue procedure, but will not become an eligible entity until January


1, 2024. The required information and certifications may be updated in guidance


published in the Internal Revenue Bulletin or via the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal.


At the time of registration, a dealer must provide the information listed in section


4.02(3)(a), (b) and (g) of this revenue procedure and make each certification listed in14


section 4.02(3)(c) through (f) of this revenue procedure:


(a) The information listed in section 4.02(2)(a) through (f) of this revenue


procedure.


(b) Bank account information of the dealer, for purposes of receiving electronic


payments, as described in section 8.03 of this revenue procedure. Use of a foreign


bank account is not permitted.


(c) Certification that the dealer will provide each taxpayer with the following


information:


(i) For purposes of the § 30D credit, the manufacturer’s suggested retail price


(MSRP) of the new clean vehicle, or, for purposes of the § 25E credit, the sale price of


the previously-owned clean vehicle;


(ii) The maximum amount of the credit allowable and any other incentive


available for the purchase of such vehicle;


(iii) The amount provided by the dealer to such taxpayer as a condition of the


taxpayer making the transfer election. This amount must equal the amount of the credit


potentially allowable as to the purchase of the vehicle and such amount may be


provided in the form of cash or a down payment or partial payment for the purchase of


the vehicle;


(iv) The modified adjusted gross income (modified AGI) limitations provided in


§§ 30D(f)(10) (in the case of the § 30D credit) or 25E(b)(2) (in the case of the § 25E


credit), as applicable; and


(d) Certification that, no later than the time of sale of the vehicle, the dealer will


make the payment to the taxpayer (whether in cash or in the form of a partial payment15


or down payment for the purchase of such vehicle) in an amount equal to the credit


otherwise allowable to such taxpayer.


(e) Certification that the dealer, with respect to any incentive otherwise available


for the purchase of a vehicle for which a § 30D credit or § 25E credit is allowed,


including any incentive in the form of a rebate or discount provided by the dealer or


manufacturer, ensured that:


(i) The availability or use of such incentive does not limit the ability of a


taxpayer to make a transfer election, and


(ii) Such election does not limit the value or use of such incentive.


(f) Certification that, in the event a buyer returns a vehicle within 30 days of the


time of sale, and the dealer fails to report such return through the IRS Energy Credits


Online Portal, the dealer will have an excessive payment of any advance payment


amount received for the sale of such vehicle.


(g) Such other information as may be required by the IRS Energy Credits Online


Portal.


.03 Reliance. For purposes of the advance payment program, taxpayers and


sellers may rely on information and certifications of a qualified manufacturer (as defined


in § 30D(d)(3)) described in section 4 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 providing that a vehicle is


eligible for a § 30D credit or a § 25E credit, as applicable. Section 4.03 of this revenue


procedure allows reliance solely with respect to information regarding the vehicle’s


eligibility for the § 30D credit or § 25E credit. For example, such reliance does not apply


to information regarding the taxpayer’s use of such vehicle, whether the taxpayer


satisfies the modified AGI limitations, or whether the taxpayer is a qualified buyer as16


defined in § 25E(c)(3).


.04 IRS Verifications.


(1) At the time of seller registration through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal


described in section 4.02(2) of this revenue procedure, the IRS will validate the seller’s


business tax information, including the North American Industry Classification System


(NAICS) Code. In the event the seller fails the validation process, the seller will be


notified by the IRS.


(2) At the time of dealer registration through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal


described in section 4.02(3) of this revenue procedure, the IRS will confirm dealer tax


compliance as well as validate the dealer’s business tax information, including the


NAICS Code and the dealer’s bank account information. In the event the dealer fails


the validation process, the dealer will be notified by the IRS.


.05 IRS Notification Regarding Dealer Registration. The IRS will notify the dealer if


its registration is accepted or rejected after considering the information submitted by the


dealer under section 4.02(3) and the verification checks under section 4.05(2) of this


revenue procedure. If the dealer’s registration is accepted, the IRS will issue a unique


dealer identification number to the dealer, which will be available through the IRS


Energy Credits Online Portal.


.06 Right to Administrative Review if Dealer Registration is Rejected. If a dealer’s


registration is rejected, the dealer will have the opportunity to request administrative


review of the IRS’s determination to the IRS. During the period that the issue is pending,


the dealer cannot participate in the advance payment program.


SECTION 5. TRANSFER ELECTION DISCLOSURE OBLIGATIONS BETWEEN THE17


DEALER AND TAXPAYER


.01 Disclosure to Taxpayer Electing to Transfer the Credit. Not later than the time of


sale, the registered dealer must provide the taxpayer electing to transfer a credit under


§ 30D(g) or § 25E(f) a written disclosure containing the information described in


sections 4.02(2)(e) and 4.02(3)(c) of this revenue procedure, signed under penalty of


perjury by a person currently authorized to bind the dealer in these matters, and a copy


of the seller report described in section 7.03 of this revenue procedure.


.02 Disclosure Obligation of Taxpayer Electing to Transfer the Credit. Not later than


the time of sale, the taxpayer electing to transfer the credit under § 30D(g) or § 25E(f)


must furnish the information listed in sections 5.02(1) through 5.02(3) and 5.02(11) of


this revenue procedure to the registered dealer and make the attestations in sections


5.02(4) through 5.02(10) through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal under penalty of


perjury. Not later than the time of sale, the registered dealer must upload the


information provided by the electing taxpayer in sections 5.02(1) through 5.02(3) and


5.02(11) of this revenue procedure through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal. The


information the electing taxpayer must furnish is as follows:


(1) Date of the taxpayer’s transfer election;


(2) The taxpayer’s TIN;


(3) A photocopy of the taxpayer’s valid, government-issued photo identification


document;


(4) An attestation, that either:


(a) The taxpayer’s prior year modified AGI did not exceed the modified AGI


limitations, provided in §§ 30D(f)(10) (in the case of the § 30D credit) or 25E(b)(2) (in18


the case of the § 25E credit), as applicable, or, if not known, to the best of the


taxpayer’s knowledge and belief, the taxpayer’s prior year modified AGI did not exceed


such limitation, or


(b) To the extent of the taxpayer’s knowledge and belief, the taxpayer’s current


year modified AGI will not exceed the modified AGI limitation;


(5) In the case of the § 30D credit, an attestation that the vehicle will be used


predominantly for personal use;


(6) In the case of the § 25E credit, an attestation that the taxpayer is a “qualified


buyer” as defined § 25E(c)(3);


(7) An attestation that the taxpayer will file an income tax return for the taxable


year in which the vehicle is placed in service on or before the due date of the return


(including extensions), reporting the taxpayer’s eligibility for the § 30D or § 25E credit,


as applicable, including the vehicle’s VIN, and the taxpayer’s election to transfer the


credit to the eligible entity, and repaying any credit amounts subject to recapture, if


applicable;


(8) An attestation that the taxpayer is making this election prior to placing the


vehicle in service and that the taxpayer has made no more than two transfer elections


(including the election for which the attestation is being made) during the taxable year;


(9) An attestation that in the event the taxpayer’s modified AGI exceeds the


applicable modified AGI limitations, they will repay the amount received as an addition


to tax for the tax year the vehicle was placed in service.


(10) An attestation that the taxpayer has voluntarily elected to transfer the credit;


and19


(11) Such other information as may be required by the IRS Energy Credits Online


Portal.


SECTION 6. TAXPAYER ELECTION TO TRANSFER CREDIT


.01 Taxpayer Election. A taxpayer may make an election to transfer the credit under


§ 30D or § 25E to a registered dealer no later than the time of sale. A transfer election


will be considered made by a taxpayer upon providing the information described in


section 5.02 of this revenue procedure to the registered dealer.


.02 Two Transfer Elections per year. A taxpayer may make no more than two


transfer elections per taxable year, consisting of either two § 30D credits or one § 30D


credit and one § 25E credit. In the case of a joint return, each individual taxpayer may


make no more than two transfer elections per taxable year.


.03 Amount of Transferred Credit. A taxpayer making a transfer election must


transfer the entire amount of the credit allowable to the taxpayer to the registered


dealer.


SECTION 7. QUALIFIED MANUFACTURER WRITTEN AGREEMENT AND REPORTS


AND SELLER REPORTS


.01 Qualified Manufacturer Written Agreement. Beginning January 1, 2024, to be


considered a qualified manufacturer, manufacturers must have entered into a written


agreement pursuant to section 4.01 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 through the IRS Energy


Credits Online Portal. The required attestation must be completed by a person currently


authorized to bind the manufacturer in these matters. Manufacturers will not be


considered qualified manufacturers until they have entered into written agreements with


the IRS. Manufacturers who previously registered and filed written agreements under20


the procedures in section 6.01 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 must enter into new written


agreements through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal. The procedures for


manufacturers to enter into written agreements prior to January 1, 2024 will remain as


described in section 6.01 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42.


.02 Written Reports by Qualified Manufacturers. Beginning January 1, 2024, qualified


manufacturers must file the monthly written reports described in section 4.02 of Rev.


Proc. 2022-42 through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal by the fifteenth of the


month following the month to which each monthly written report relates. Qualified


manufacturers may file reports more frequently than once a month. Beginning January


1, 2024, manufacturers who previously registered as qualified manufacturers under the


procedures in section 6.01 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 must file their written reports through


the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal. The procedures for manufacturers to file written


reports prior to January 1, 2024, will remain as described in section 6.02 of Rev. Proc.


2022-42.


.03 Seller Reports.


(1) Time and Manner of Filing Seller Reports. For sales for which the vehicle is


placed in service by the taxpayer on or after January 1, 2024, a seller must file the seller


report described in section 5.01 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42 through the IRS Energy Credits


Online Portal within 3 calendar days of the date of sale. Whenever feasible, the seller


report should be filed in conjunction with the completion of the sale and at the time the


seller report is provided to the purchaser. A seller may submit seller reports through the


IRS Energy Credits Online Portal prior to January 1, 2024.


(2) Requirement to Furnish Copy of Seller Report to Taxpayer. The seller must21


provide the seller report as well as the confirmation of the submission of the seller report


through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal to the taxpayer purchasing the vehicle


within 3 calendar days of the submission of the seller report through the IRS Energy


Credits Online Portal.


(3) IRS Rejection of Seller Report. In the event that the information provided in the


seller report does not match the IRS’s records, the IRS may reject the seller report and


notify the seller. In the event the seller report is rejected, a dealer will not be eligible for


an advance payment under section 8 of this revenue procedure. The seller must notify


the buyer within 3 calendar days of the IRS’s rejection of the seller report.


(4) Updating and Rescinding of Seller Reports. In the event the seller wishes to


update or rescind certain information on a seller report for a scrivener’s error or


cancellation of sale, it must do so through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal as


promptly as possible after the original submission occurred, either through an update of


the original seller report (if within 48 hours of the original submission of the report) or


through submission of a new seller report correcting the prior information. In the event


of a return by the buyer, the seller must file a new seller report noting the return. The


IRS will acknowledge submission of the report of the return. The seller must notify the


buyer within 3 calendar days of updating or rescinding the seller report, and provide the


buyer a copy. The seller must also notify the buyer within 3 calendar days of the IRS’s


rejection of the updated or rescinded report.


SECTION 8. ADVANCE PAYMENT TO REGISTERED DEALERS


.01 Information Required for Advance Payments. To receive advance payments for


each taxpayer’s transfer election, the registered dealer must, at the time of sale of the22


new clean vehicle or previously-owned clean vehicle, as applicable, provide the


vehicle’s VIN, the seller report, and the taxpayer disclosure information in section 5.02


of this revenue procedure through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal. The


information must be provided by a person currently authorized to bind the registered


dealer in these matters.


.02 Dealer Tax Compliance Checks. In order to participate in the advance payment


program, the dealer must be in dealer tax compliance. Prior to the disbursement of


advance payments as described in this revenue procedure, and on a continuing and


regular basis, the IRS will conduct dealer tax compliance checks to ensure dealers


remain in dealer tax compliance.


.03 Time and Manner of Payments. After the registered dealer provides the


information required in section 8.01 of this revenue procedure through the IRS Energy


Credits Online Portal, and provided the seller report is accepted and the registered


dealer is in dealer tax compliance, an electronic advance payment will be disbursed to


the most recent bank account specified by the registered dealer. No advance payments


will be disbursed by paper checks.


SECTION 9. RECORDKEEPING


.01 Registered Dealer Recordkeeping Obligations. The registered dealer must retain


records for each taxpayer who makes a transfer election in accordance with section 6 of


this revenue procedure for a period of three years after the transfer election is made.


The record for each taxpayer must include the information described in section 5.02 of


this revenue procedure.


.02 Seller Recordkeeping Obligations. The seller must retain records for each seller23


report submitted in accordance with section 7.03 of this revenue procedure for a period


of three years after the report is filed with the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal.


SECTION 10. SUSPENSION OF REGISTERED DEALER ELIGIBILITY


.01 Suspension of Eligibility. The IRS may suspend a registered dealer’s eligibility to


participate in the advance payment program for any of the following reasons:


(1) The IRS determines that the registered dealer provided inaccurate information


to the taxpayer regarding the vehicle’s eligibility or the taxpayer’s eligibility for the


advance payment program;


(2) The IRS determines that the registered dealer provided inaccurate information


to the IRS regarding the vehicle’s eligibility or taxpayer’s eligibility for the advance


payment program;


(3) The IRS determines that the registered dealer provided inaccurate information


to the IRS regarding its eligibility for the advance payment program;


(4) The registered dealer fails to satisfy the dealer tax compliance requirement in


section 8.02 of this revenue procedure;


(5) The IRS determines that the bank account information that the dealer provided


through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal is not valid;


(6) The dealer fails to report the return of a vehicle through the IRS Energy Credits


Online Portal as required in section 4.04(f) of this revenue procedure;


(7) The IRS determines it is necessary to suspend the registered dealer’s


registration to prevent abuse of the advance payment program.


.02 Notification by the IRS to the Dealer. If the IRS determines a registered dealer’s


eligibility for the advance payment program should be suspended pursuant to section24


10.01 of this revenue procedure, the IRS will notify the registered dealer of such


determination.


.03 Correction. The registered dealer will be notified of a suspension from the


advance payment program as well as the reason for the suspension. The registered


dealer will be given an opportunity to correct any errors that caused its suspension. The


registered dealer cannot participate in the advance payment program from the moment


it is notified of the suspension, unless and until the suspension is lifted.


.04 Revocation of Dealer’s Registration. If the registered dealer fails to correct the


errors that caused the suspension from the advance payment program within a year of


the suspension, the registered dealer’s registration will be revoked, and the procedures


in section 11 of this revenue procedure will apply.


SECTION 11. REVOCATION OF REGISTERED DEALER ELIGIBILITY AND RE-


REGISTRATION


.01 Revocation of Dealer Eligibility. The IRS may revoke a dealer’s registration to


receive credits transferred under §§ 30D(g) or 25E(f) and be eligible for advance


payments of such credits for any of the following reasons:


(1) The registered dealer fails to comply with any of the registration requirements in


section 4 of this revenue procedure;


(2) The registered dealer fails to satisfy the dealer tax compliance requirement in


section 8.02 of this revenue procedure;


(3) The registered dealer loses its license to sell vehicles;


(4) The IRS determines that the registered dealer provided inaccurate information


to the taxpayer regarding the vehicle eligibility or the taxpayer’s eligibility for the25


advance payment program, in circumstances where the IRS determines that revocation,


rather than suspension, as referenced in section 10.01(1) of this revenue procedure, is


appropriate;


(5) The IRS determines that the registered dealer provided inaccurate information


to the IRS regarding vehicle eligibility or taxpayer eligibility for the advance payment


program, in circumstances where the IRS determines that revocation, rather than


suspension, as referenced in section 10.01(2) of this revenue procedure, is appropriate;


(6) The registered dealer fails to retain records for each taxpayer who makes a


transfer election for a period of three years;


(7) The registered dealer’s registration has been suspended three times in the


preceding year in accordance with section 10 of this revenue procedure.


.02 Notification by the IRS to the Dealer. If the IRS determines a registered dealer’s


eligibility for the advance payment program should be revoked, the IRS will notify the


registered dealer within 30 days of such determination.


.03 Right to Administrative Review. If a registered dealer is notified of the revocation


of its eligibility for the advance payment program, it will have the opportunity to


administrative review of the IRS’s determination. During the period that the issue is


pending, the registered dealer cannot participate in the advance payment program.


Once the IRS makes a final determination, a registered dealer’s registration will either


be confirmed as revoked, fully reinstated, or reinstated under conditions as determined


by the IRS.


.04 Re-Registration of Dealer. No earlier than one calendar year after the date of the


notification described in section 11.02 of this revenue procedure revoking a registered26


dealer’s registration, a registered dealer may apply to register again through the IRS


Energy Credits Online Portal, as described in section 4.03(c) of this revenue procedure.


.05 Non Eligibility for Re-Registration. After a registered dealer’s registration has


been revoked, including any final IRS determinations following the dealer’s request for


an administrative review of the revocation, if applicable, on three separate occasions,


the registered dealer will be permanently barred from re-registering with the IRS and


participating in the advance payment program.


SECTION 12. EFFECT ON OTHER DOCUMENTS


The requirements of sections 7.01 and 7.02 of this revenue procedure regarding


filing a written agreement to be considered a qualified manufacturer and filing monthly


written reports through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal supersede the timing and


manner of filing requirements in sections 6.01 and 6.02 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42. The


requirements of section 7.03(1) of this revenue procedure regarding submitting seller


reports through the IRS Energy Credits Online Portal supersede the timing and manner


of filing requirements in sections 5.01 and 6.03 of Rev. Proc. 2022-42.


SECTION 13. PAPERWORK REDUCTION ACT


The collection of information contained in this revenue procedure has been


submitted to the Office of Management and Budget in accordance with the Paperwork


Reduction Act (44 U.S.C. 3507) under control number 1545-2311.


An agency may not conduct or sponsor, and a person is not required to respond to, a


collection of information unless the collection of information displays a valid OMB


control number.


The collections of information in this revenue procedure are in sections 4.02, 5.01,27


5.02, 7.01, 7.02, 7.03(1), 8.01, 9.01, and 9.02. This information is collected and


retained to ensure that dealers and sellers properly register with the IRS, properly


submit records to claim the transfer election, and properly retain records. This


information will be used to determine whether the dealer is eligible for the claimed


advance payment election. The collection of information is voluntary to obtain a benefit.


The likely respondents are corporations and partnerships.


The estimated total annual reporting burden is 296,688 hours.


The estimated annual burden per respondent is one hour to complete the dealer


registration, as required under this revenue procedure, and the estimated number of


respondents is 52,000. The estimated annual burden per respondent is .25 hours to


complete the advanced payment uploading of information, as required under this


revenue procedure and the estimated number of respondents is 978,750. The estimated


annual frequency of responses is 1,030,750.


Books or records relating to a collection of information must be retained as long as


their contents may become material in the administration of any internal revenue law.


Generally, tax returns and tax return information are confidential, as required by § 6103.


SECTION 14. DRAFTING INFORMATION


The principal author of this revenue procedure is the Office of Associate Chief


Counsel (Passthroughs & Special Industries). However, other personnel from the


Department of the Treasury and the IRS participated in its development. For further


information regarding this revenue procedure, call the energy security guidance contact


number at (202) 317-5254 (not a toll-free call).
 
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Latest from Tesla advisor, our IT has been made aware of it and they are looking into it. Keep refreshing the page. I asked what about worst case scenario they said lets wait till Monday and if we can't make the change in app to reach out to advisor and they will figure out something.

TL;DR they don't know how to proceed :rolleyes:
 
OD 11/3. MXP
VIN assigned: 12/29. 431
scheduled delivery for 12/31 but they said it still was in transit and wouldn’t arrive until 1/3
Scheduled for 1/6 (today)
They called me this morning say they noticed a 4in scratch on hood and paint chip and that I can either pick up car and get serviced or delay pick up until fixed.

I opted to delay. New pick up is 1/13
 
In an article I read there was a statement the new EPA system specifically goes into effect with model year 2024 vehicles - so perhaps a clue that all of us needing to update our order - will indeed receive 2024 model year. Now if we can just figure out the comfort and functionality changes they mention in the email.
I pulled the tax code and read it, it is not limited to 2024 cars, it begins with any new car sold after December 31, 2023.... and for used as well as at a reduced rate

"transfer election with respect to a new clean vehicle and received a payment from an


eligible entity, if the § 30D credit would otherwise (but for § 30D(g)) not be allowable to


such taxpayer pursuant to the application of the limitation based on modified adjusted


gross income in § 30D(f)(10), the income tax imposed on such taxpayer under chapter 1


of the Code for the taxable year in which such vehicle was placed in service must be


increased by the amount of the payment received by such taxpayer.


(11) Section 13401(k)(4) of the IRA provides that the ability for a taxpayer to elect


to transfer a § 30D credit under § 30D(g) applies to vehicles placed in service after


December 31, 2023."
 
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I went to my SC and the confirmed that my pricing will remain intact—there is nothing to do on my end. They will remedy on the backend and it will reflect that I accepted the update but my Sept 2023 pricing and my discounts (loyalty + CT) will carryover. I strong rec that anyone in the same bucket as I am visit their SC so this is recorded.

For anyone who asked, I had a MXP order at $89,990 MSRP. The reason I don’t have a car yet is it was delayed for weeks with the firmware issue and then finally when I was inspecting it, there were significant out of spec (so you can imagine how bad…) paint issues. After I rejected it, I was on a 2w hold. I just came out of the hold and this update requirement was in my Inbox.
 
I went to my SC and the confirmed that my pricing will remain intact—there is nothing to do on my end. They will remedy on the backend and it will reflect that I accepted the update but my Sept 2023 pricing and my discounts (loyalty + CT) will carryover. I strong rec that anyone in the same bucket as I am visit their SC so this is recorded.

For anyone who asked, I had a MXP order at $89,990 MSRP. The reason I don’t have a car yet is it was delayed for weeks with the firmware issue and then finally when I was inspecting it, there were significant out of spec (so you can imagine how bad…) paint issues. After I rejected it, I was on a 2w hold. I just came out of the hold and this update requirement was in my Inbox.
You're lucky. I think the rumored updates will be in your car when you get it. Wish mine didn't come in December!