TommyBoy
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StudioJon - Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier! These a la carte options are actually really nice for me too. I don't want nor need all that leather but I had to have it because it was part of the P85 whether I wanted it or not. My wife is thrilled she doesn't have to have it now and I don't feel like I'm paying for something I don't want.
My car went up $1900 and that's with parking sensors and possibly an upgraded stereo system. If the stereo system is the same one I just won't get it and without that $2500 charge the total of my new car versus my old car is the new pricing will be $600 less than the old one and I'll have the parking sensors we really needed for such a large car. And the difference between the old standard stereo and the upgraded studio sound package won't be missed.
The point that this is not apples to apples is not lost on me - but I hope others understand that paying for options that you didn't want that were bundled wasn't a great option for some of us.
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Even more interesting is that I was thinking about purchasing a 2013 Porsche 911S. Base was right around 100K. The options list is staggering. And I mean STAGGERING! Without a custom build the cheapest one I could find on the lot at dealers around Southern California was around $121K. You can get a leather shift knob, different door handles, emblems, wheel crests - you name it and it can be part of the car - for a cost.
My Tesla at 105K (and then 10K in rebates making it 95K) is a steal!!!!!
My car went up $1900 and that's with parking sensors and possibly an upgraded stereo system. If the stereo system is the same one I just won't get it and without that $2500 charge the total of my new car versus my old car is the new pricing will be $600 less than the old one and I'll have the parking sensors we really needed for such a large car. And the difference between the old standard stereo and the upgraded studio sound package won't be missed.
The point that this is not apples to apples is not lost on me - but I hope others understand that paying for options that you didn't want that were bundled wasn't a great option for some of us.
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Also for perspective, how about this:
Mercedes S550 (regular version without options) starts at 91k...
Mercedes S63 (AMG performance version, still slower than model S P85) starts at 140k without options.
Porsche Panamera S starts at 93k before options.
panamera Turbo 141k before options.
ICE manufacturers make you pay real money for the kind of performance of P85.
Tesla all the way for me!
Also I'm with Bonnie. Options are good. You can have what you want. Thanks Elon!
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Thanks Deonb...... Exactly my point. If everything is bundled then you end up buying things you don't really want in order to get the things you can't live without. I think relatively few people really just want absolutely everything. They want the things they want.
I suspect a lot of P85 cars were sold to people who wanted the upgraded interior, for instance.
In the real world fully customizable is much better IMHO.
Even more interesting is that I was thinking about purchasing a 2013 Porsche 911S. Base was right around 100K. The options list is staggering. And I mean STAGGERING! Without a custom build the cheapest one I could find on the lot at dealers around Southern California was around $121K. You can get a leather shift knob, different door handles, emblems, wheel crests - you name it and it can be part of the car - for a cost.
My Tesla at 105K (and then 10K in rebates making it 95K) is a steal!!!!!