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That could be, but a couple of things...
1. Foot must be on brake the entire time
2. Car must be in Park
3. Left turn signal stalk must be held down the entire time (all the way until you press the Enter button)
I tried it on the track the other day. I find it interesting that the "Dyno" warning is to not drive the vehicle on public roads rather than to only use it on a dyno.
I was expecting it to be a lot more unpredictable than it was. In my opinion it was just like driving an old powerful car that didn't have traction control.
I'm not saying it is going to be easy for everyone. Just that it isn't completely uncontrollable like I thought it would be. If someone has never driven a powerful car without traction control they can get in trouble. But it is no different then other powerful cars, other than not having the sound of the engine to associate with when it breaks loose. I was on the factory ps4 tires on the rear and Nitto 555G2s on the front.Sounds like fun but keep in mind you have experience pushing cars to their traction limits and you are on track. Many folks don't have experience with older high powered cars that have no stability or traction control. Not sure what tires you are running but that will make a difference for sure.
The AWD and RWD models do not have the same sticky tires as the M3P+ so with instant torque and lack of experience it is every easy to do what this guy did in the video posted earlier in the thread. IMO, Tesla should create a Sport Drive Mode that "relaxes" the Stability and Traction Control vs. this mode that completely disables everything. This way the car will get a little loose but keep you our of trouble for the most part. The 3P models at least have Track Mode to play with but the AWD and LR guys will try this mode and accidents like this will occur.
The track isn't gonna have too many unpredictable grip variations, short of spilled fluids or people bringing dirt back on to the racing line. It's those grip variations that make open diff AWD/RWD cars unpredictable. On the street in the snow/ice, those grip variations are all over the place.I never thought I’d be posting the “this problem is not unique to Tesla” post.
Sounds like if you learn to drive and save it for the track you’ll be fine.
I never thought I’d be posting the “this problem is not unique to Tesla” post.
Sounds like if you learn to drive and save it for the track you’ll be fine.
I'm not saying it is going to be easy for everyone. Just that it isn't completely uncontrollable like I thought it would be. If someone has never driven a powerful car without traction control they can get in trouble. But it is no different then other powerful cars, other than not having the sound of the engine to associate with when it breaks loose. I was on the factory ps4 tires on the rear and Nitto 555G2s on the front.
I hear ya. I am a big advocate of Tesla letting us disable the nannies if we want but you would think they would create a middle of the road option first. By the way, how is the regen in Dyno Mode? Is it completely disabled?
I think you typed your post inside of the quote. But as far as I remember the regen felt like normal.
My take on that is when they say the systems become "faulted" they are talking about people unplugging the wheel speed sensor that creates a fault that turns the systems off. When that happens regen is disabled as well for safety. The second part of that is that is by "disabling" them (by using dyno mode) regen is still active so the car it's accurately representing what it does on the street. They mention "consumption" as well. So considering this is from something filed with the EPA about dynos and consumption I assume it's about using a dyno to measure the range of the car. Because if someone was to use a dyno as a controlled environment to test the Tesla's range by disabling the wheel speed sensor they wouldn't have regen so the range will show as less than actual. It seems almost like it is the opposite of the VW TDI dyno / emissions testing issues.Yeah, good catch. That is good to know. I was trying to make sense of this statement in this article.
Tesla Dyno Mode Transforms Any TSLA Vehicle into a Serious Drift Machine
“When the Stability Control and Traction Control systems become faulted, as is the case on a dynamometer where driving is detected but movement is not, regenerative braking is disabled so that unintended braking torque does not lead to loss of traction or control on low friction surfaces. Disabling Stability Control and Traction Control prevents those systems from disrupting regenerative braking behavior, maintaining the most representative driving energy consumption.”
The track isn't gonna have too many unpredictable grip variations, short of spilled fluids or people bringing dirt back on to the racing line. It's those grip variations that make open diff AWD/RWD cars unpredictable. On the street in the snow/ice, those grip variations are all over the place.
Not too long ago traction control and abs were unheard of but people managed to drive just fine.
I've also driven on the street in dyno mode. There was no drama. The only way this is going to be an issue is if someone goes out and is driving in a manner that is intentionally trying to make the car slide. It might be an issue if someone is trying to drive aggressive with it on and doesn't have the skills to do it. Which they shouldn't be doing on the street. I can't think of a time where the traction control has kicked in on the street while driving normally. If someone is driving on snow/ ice the road and tires are colder than normal. They sound be driving with more gentle inputs anyways. But if they are dumb enough to turn on dyno mode on the street in these conditions they are probably going to crash because their intention is to slide the car and they will be too aggressive with their inputs. Not too long ago traction control and abs were unheard of but people managed to drive just fine.
Totally different from ICE vehicles where if you feel the rear start to slide it's best to quickly lift off the gas and pull the parking brake.Also can report that if you let regen kick-in whilst sliding, you better have fast hands/feet and lots o' room.