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100%, completely different level. But the price point is very different as well )Who else who has a MY LR or Performance has driven the 2023 S and X? I was amazed at how much better built those vehicles feel, never mind the way they take the bumps in the road.
Well, the latest version of Assisted driving is completely hands free at speeds below 80 mph on a highway. So no annoying tapping of the steering wheel every 3-5 seconds required like in Tesla. Plus cameras and road recognition are working equally good compared to Tesla.Can you add more to BMW assisted driving being superior to Tesla AP?
BMW has iX (electric) models coming out (smaller range though from what I last checked compared to Ys) and with their AP/AD that would be very interesting. Thanks!
Yea, it was definitely a premium feel in the X. Not to say the Y is any slouch but it is a different level and the price reflects that.Who else who has a MY LR or Performance has driven the 2023 S and X? I was amazed at how much better built those vehicles feel, never mind the way they take the bumps in the road.
Perhaps true now. But once they upgrade the MY next year (safe assumption it will pick up many features of the Highland 3) then the comparison will be more tricky.No not at all, many folks are upgrading to the model X from previous Y’s ownership especially with a $40k price drop. I had a 22MYP and great car but it not smooth and room as the X. I have a 23 MYLR for my wife and it a rough ride on 19’s . With price cuts it’s win win for all prospective buyers.
I like the look of that!Inventory continuing to rise. U.S. model 3
At 1051 going into the weekend. It is certainly looking like there could be a repeat of the Q3 prices bottoming out in November-December. It’s hard to be patient, hoping to get a white interior and black exterior paint for free.
North America production
Any VINs starting 5YJ or 7SA, so will include Texas and Fremont
- Model S - 2836
- Model X - 3418
- Model 3 - 1051
- Model Y - 1909
- Total = 9214
China production
Any VINs starting LRW, which are China only
- Model S - NA
- Model X - NA
- Model 3 - 339
- Model Y - 293
- Total = 632
Berlin production
Any VINs starting XP7, which are Berlin, Germany only
- Model S - NA
- Model X - NA
- Model 3 - NA
- Model Y - 583
- Total = 583
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Timing markets is always a game of “chicken”. Missing out on at least $3750 would probably be worse than not getting a discount on inventory. I just learned that not only is our 2007 Honda Pilot leaking oil, but I discovered that my 2006 Ridgeline is too, even worse. Part of me wants to just say “screw it” and get one ASAP, but must be patient, just about 6 weeks and hopefully inventory is up and their prices come down.I like the look of that!
This definitely bodes well for price cuts in the next month.
Same here than totaled 8 month later. Waiting for the right time or either get another Y or upgrade to X.Took delivery of my MYP 1-year ago on Sept 29, 2022 and paid the $69k + tax. I can't believe current inventory is running at ~$53k + incentives!
I checked a Tesla trade-in quote and it was $39.5k. can't believe I've lost 50% of the cars sticker in 1 year
Down another 10% today.US inventory numbers certainly on the rise, but really nothing is noticeable yet in the charts. Numbers will have to go much higher to compare with Q3. And what was done in Q3 was apparently a disappointment for stockholders with the share price falling nearly 5% yesterday.
- Model S - 2847
- Model X - 3634
- Model 3 - 1109
- Model Y - 1933
- Total = 9523
So the strategy of pumping out lots of vehicles and discounting to sell basically didn’t work. Do they change their Strategy this quarter? Play chicken and assume there are lots of people like me out there that know we better order our M3 soon. Inventory discounts are not the thing that are going to make us buy this quarter. The government incentive is what’s going to make us buy. So maybe M3 and MY inventory discounts won’t be coming. It didn’t work in Q3.
Also, no Cybertrucks will hit inventory for a long time as I understand it. So Tesla could possibly just pump out oodles of Cybertrucks to hit their 1.8M delivery number which apparently only requires 500k vehicles in Q4. I think it was something like 418k in Q3. Pumping out too many models to land in inventory only increases storage and shipping costs. Right? They can pump out just ordered vehicles and maybe hit their number if they can ramp up the Cybertruck deliveries that are supposed to begin in November.
Cybertruck debut could dwarf the other models if they can do it right. It could also end up a monumental failure, in which case they better hit numbers for other vehicles.
Will they put all eggs in one basket?