JRP3
Hyperactive Member
You definitely need to contact Tesla, the same as you would for any EV OEM when your car is damaged.
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It doesn't. I was just wondering if people with a car before #340 signed the agreement then that would make his already weak argument even weaker because his source (business partner and friend) would have signed it too.
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A far more likely scenario is my Roadster gets written off by a lamp post or driven into by some idiot. Now that's a risk I spend effort worrying about. Next issue please.
Which brings us to the subject of insurance.
Which brings us to the subject of insurance.
In what other situation does owner negligence get covered by insurance? What am I missing?
That's from 50% charge. It lasts about 30 days from 0% (better than the 14 days Drucker's Roadster lasted).Tesla has stated that the Model S will be fine for at least a whole whopping year. They have also stated that it does exactly what several people have suggested in this thread - kill all parasitic loads and hibernate when voltage reaches a certain lower threshold.
For the above reason I think "completely fixed" is exaggerating. This probably can't be eliminated. Yes it's "extremely unlikely" (it wasn't that likely in the Roadster case either if you look at the people who have bricked their battery vs those who didn't) and perhaps less so in the Model S. But the core issue still remains and probably can't be fixed. That means in the end someone ignorant about it can still brick the battery and the only way to prevent that is to inform people (perhaps the easiest/sure way is a sticker on the charging flap).So it seems to me that Tesla has completely fixed this problem and that bricking is now an extremely unlikely scenario.
Well, collision insurance covers negligent driving - if you drive off the road and hit a tree they will cover you.In what other situation does owner negligence get covered by insurance? What am I missing?
This article did a good job of factually describing Max Drucker, gathering info publicly available on the net. Then it went off the rails when it went in started a blatant rumor that Max is part of a Mossad Israeli conspiracy with the only shred of evidence that he donates time, money and his home to causes that support Israel! Disgustingly ANTI-SEMETIC! The only room for pause, that made me think that this scrub guy had any scruples was that he told us that in the interest of protecting minors he was going to withhold publishing information on Mr. Drucker's kids; that was a classy move.
Wanna ask someone who was a Tesla and EV champion how it feels to have that done to him and although he got his Roadster back, is forever jaded?If I was Tesla CEO, I'd return his $5k and tell him he couldn't have one.
I am here to say that I read the Roadster manual front to back, consider myself an average reader/poster on TMC, spend countless hours, days, weeks (along with others) in the name of Tesla and EV promotion both behind the scenes, one on one and on national TV & film! I knew you could brick a Roadster if you drove it to zero and did not plug it in, but I NEVER knew (until this thread) that you could PASSIVELY brick a battery. Never mind what the conditions are. Its obvious that most on this thread are infallible and could never fathom of a scenario where that would happen and even when some propose a scenario they shoot it down so black & white, and then go pat themselves on the back; disgusting! United we stand; divided we fall!All the roadster owners should do a YouTube community response to this BS. Show folks what it's really like to live with the car, and how easy it is to just plug it in
This probably assumes that you start from a full charge on a 300mile battery; my guess. That being said, can you please provide the link where those words are written, especially about killing the parasitic loads. That would be great for the Model S but I am still leery for there is a difference between hibernating, which still consumes some battery and complete battery shut off before the battery bricks! We might, on the Roadster, already have the former.Tesla has stated that the Model S will be fine for at least a whole whopping year. They have also stated that it does exactly what several people have suggested in this thread - kill all parasitic loads and hibernate when voltage reaches a certain lower threshold.
I agree with much that was said in the article and concur with your analysis.I thought this was a worthwhile, if quick, read.
And, it sounds like Tesla is fixing this for Model S anyway, so it just makes Tesla look immature to not fix this early adopter's car.
The end result here is that Tesla is paying too large a price for their rightous attitude.
"Storage Anxiety." You better patent that before GM does!spec says just parking your car for a couple of months can destroy your $40K battery. So, now instead of Range Anxiety, we have Storage Anxiety. That is a design error.
This probably assumes that you start from a full charge on a 300mile battery; my guess. ....
... IF the PEM will be compromised by shutting off all battery drainage below a battery level of a certain point, but the PEM is less costly to replace than the battery, then so be it.
I am here to say that I read the Roadster manual front to back, consider myself an average reader/poster on TMC, spend countless hours, days, weeks (along with others) in the name of Tesla and EV promotion both behind the scenes, one on one and on national TV & film! I knew you could brick a Roadster if you drove it to zero and did not plug it in, but I NEVER knew (until this thread) that you could PASSIVELY brick a battery.
Six separate times it says plug in when leaving or storing the car for a period of time.
This probably assumes that you start from a full charge on a 300mile battery; my guess. That being said, can you please provide the link where those words are written, especially about killing the parasitic loads. That would be great for the Model S but I am still leery for there is a difference between hibernating, which still consumes some battery and complete battery shut off before the battery bricks! We might, on the Roadster, already have the former.