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This does nothing to improve the perception
I agree with you there but I think the positives outweigh the negatives. There are a lot of videos/pics out there of people waiting in lines at the busy chargers. That definitely hurts Tesla as those are the memes that end up on Social Media and get the most LOLs from ICErs.Just to be clear, I don't expect to be affected by this, but I don't know it is the best idea for the company. Charging is a major impediment to buying an EV even if it's only a matter of perception. This does nothing to improve the perception.
I agree with you there but I think the positives outweigh the negatives. There are a lot of videos/pics out there of people waiting in lines at the busy chargers. That definitely hurts Tesla as those are the memes that end up on Social Media and get the most LOLs from ICErs.
Also I would hope they put the 80% limit info on the map in the car just like they do with the max charge rate and costs at that station.
So we have a dammed if we do, dammed if we don't scenario. Which is worse, continuing to show the same level of charger congestion (not that this limit will fix it) or adding all the news alerts that Tesla is rationing charging? I can't even figure out if any of my watering holes will be affected.
I don't have a strong opinion either way
But it's not the same level of charging congestion. They're adding way more cars than the charging network can keep up with. And yes, that's a problem in that Tesla hasn't added enough SCs yet. Summer is upon us and the anger about congested chargers will continue but the 80% cap will be one bad headline forgotten about a month from now. Tesla really needs to expand SCs like they've said they would. There's a few chargers in Colorado that have been on "The Map" for 3 years now. Every year, it's planned opening is "next year."
Personally I think they slowed down last year so they could show Wall Street they could pull a profit if they wanted to. And that set them behind.
Really? You seem to be expressing a pretty consistent strong opinion in the thread you created.
Supercharging Rock and Hard Place
I disagree with the idea that this creates any charging anxiety or negative perception for potential owners. In fact this is one of those obscure things that a tiny fraction of potential owners will even be aware of.
On the contrary, almost everyone even sort of interested in cars has seen news stories of 40-deep supercharging queues on holiday weekends.
I don’t see this as an alternative to investing in the network, but a complement. It’s important to maximize efficiency of the investment you’ve already made. It’s increasingly rare that there’s ever a need to supercharge beyond 80% to facilitate travel. There’s an easy solution available for those times that do. Win-win.
But it's not the same level of charging congestion. They're adding way more cars than the charging network can keep up with. And yes, that's a problem in that Tesla hasn't added enough SCs yet.
Yes, but you need to build LESS chargers for the same benefit if they’re used more efficiently. For a cash-strapped company, that’s a huge consideration.The real issue is that it's a one time gain. So they get a little better utilization of the chargers, they still need to build more chargers.
40 was a distortion of the facts as I remembered them, but there are well publicized news stories and videos a couple years back of lines over 20 at some key chokepoints like Barstow and Tejon Ranch in California. More recently at places like Quartzsite, AZ.Maybe this won't have as much impact as the videos of long charging lines (40 deep? Really?)
but I think it will not do much for the lines and will make an impression on the buying public, just like gas rationing in the 70s.
Yes, but you need to build LESS chargers for the same benefit if they’re used more efficiently. For a cash-strapped company, that’s a huge consideration.
40 was a distortion of the facts as I remembered them, but there are well publicized news stories and videos a couple years back of lines over 20 at some key chokepoints like Barstow and Tejon Ranch in California. More recently at places like Quartzsite, AZ.
Agree to disagree there I suppose. This is not even sort of analogous to gas rationing.
Someone said this is a news blip that will be gone soon. I think it will get mentioned every time a charging line makes the news. Long lines and restricted charging. News reports are about making a splash. It doesn't have to be overly realistic, just not lies.
I guess Monday evening will tell.
Plus you can just move the slider above 80% and charge higher. It's not a firm limit at 80%.Something to note, if you you are using navigation and it sends you to a supercharger, then as long as that charger is NOT at your final destination, you will be able to charge as much as you need to.
Pretty sure moving the slider doesn't override the 80% limit. Only routing through a supercharger will do that.Plus you can just move the slider above 80% and charge higher. It's not a firm limit at 80%.
I haven't tried it myself, but I'm just relaying what @AAARSINIC said here: High-usage supercharger stationPretty sure moving the slider doesn't override the 80% limit. Only routing through a supercharger will do that.