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Elon: "Feature complete for full self driving this year"
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Cirrus MS100D
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I'll admit that I was wrong when I assumed that Tesla wouldn't release "stopping at green lights" to the masses.
Now to schedule our 2017 AP2 -> AP3 upgrade that we've been owed since the day we paid for it
Now to schedule our 2017 AP2 -> AP3 upgrade that we've been owed since the day we paid for it
vespax
Member
I received 12.6 today with FSD in 2018 X. I like it, it seems safe to use since it stops at all lights and stop signs in a timely way, but it is also easy to override with eh accelerator pedal on green lights. Seems intuitive and nicely designed. It also feels like a game, how can I train the computer to be better over time. I'm excited for the results.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Honestly the largest mistake was including the word "autosteer" anywhere in those notes.
Remove it- and the entire text still reads the same, the entire feature operation works the same-(since TACC is always on during AS anyway)
But leave it in and they destroy their entire narrative about the operational domain of autosteer.
Remove it- and the entire text still reads the same, the entire feature operation works the same-(since TACC is always on during AS anyway)
But leave it in and they destroy their entire narrative about the operational domain of autosteer.
Looks like consistent with the FSD visualization preview showing stop lines for T intersections based on map data indicating the current road ends, stopping behavior shows a different message if it doesn't detect a stop sign.
Test video with mixed results. Stops five times when there weren't any traffic control light or sign.
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
The guy apparently does not know how to read. He says that the car got the update that "enables AP on city streets". I guess he meant to say "City NOA" but that is not this update. He clearly reads the release notes but still does not know that it is only traffic light response. He continues to try to enable NOA on city streets and is expecting the car to make turns on its own.
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
Also looks like the T-junction stopping that was highlighted here Elon: "Feature complete for full self driving this year" applies to all directions of the T-junction. That would explain the two times his car tried to stop when he couldn't identify an intersection.
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
This is right before he says "It slowed down there for no reason at all..."
There is an adjoining road to the right of the main road that forms an intersection the vehicle was slowing for.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Cool - looking forward to it.
Will be useful in a couple of years when my office re-opens
Will be useful in a couple of years when my office re-opens
powertoold
Active Member
I’ve had the model 3 for 2 years and have a good perspective on the progress over the years. I got 2020.12.6 this morning and have driven about 150 miles with it. I drove through SF city streets down to south San Jose (65 miles each way) and through quite a bit of city traffic and back to SF. I thought it was brilliant. The 4 way stops in SF are so annoying with AP, with this it was magical. I find the right stalk press to be very seemless rather than the accelerator. Zero failures. The renderings seemed a little more clear and much better pedestrian visualization.
It also dodged a trench pot hole 100 foot in length on the left side of the lane at 75 mph. It gently moved to the rightmost side of the lane like a human would. It worked flawlessly in San Jose and even took a few left turns through intersections at full speed.
There were some minor cons: It seemed like NOA lane changes took longer to initiate after the blinker began. Lane changes also seemed a lot slower. Similar to how it’s been up until 3 months ago. Thats about all I could tell.
I’m very impressed by this update but like any other, you still must be very aware and ready to take over. I’m sure your mileage may vary depending on your geographic location and your personal opinions.
It also dodged a trench pot hole 100 foot in length on the left side of the lane at 75 mph. It gently moved to the rightmost side of the lane like a human would. It worked flawlessly in San Jose and even took a few left turns through intersections at full speed.
There were some minor cons: It seemed like NOA lane changes took longer to initiate after the blinker began. Lane changes also seemed a lot slower. Similar to how it’s been up until 3 months ago. Thats about all I could tell.
I’m very impressed by this update but like any other, you still must be very aware and ready to take over. I’m sure your mileage may vary depending on your geographic location and your personal opinions.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
That looks really bad and dangerous. That is no where near reliable enough for autonomous driving.
Dan Detweiler
Active Member
Of course it isn't. That's why they call it "beta". It is still learning. Still evolving. You obviously aren't familiar with how Tesla evolves so much more quickly than all other OEMs. Just like Nav On Autopilot, this will get better and better in short order and will become a vital next step in the development of FSD. It's a process that the vast majority of Tesla owners are thrilled to be a part of. Me included. We are helping the system learn.
Dan
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I've owned a Model 3 since 2018. I think I know how Tesla's software development works. I am simply responding to all the "fanboys", like the ones on Twitter, who are acting like this feature is just one step away from FSD. It isn't. Not yet.
Dan Detweiler
Active Member
Understanding and supporting the process does not justify a derogatory label like "fanboy". Applauding and supporting these milestones is a positive position and should not be taken lightly.
Dan
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I apologize.
And yes, I support milestones and positive progress. But I also like to set the record straight. There is a big difference between acknowledging that it is a positive milestone and more work needs to be done (perfectly ok) and saying that AP can already take you anywhere you want on city streets and imply that L5 is going to happen soon (not ok).
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