Elon: FSD Beta tweets

[EVNow]

BTW, I've never understood why so many want to upgrade immediately knowing it's going to break something, potentially critical. FOMO, I guess. I prefer functional.

troglodyte

 

[Silicon Desert]

NOT lying. Just because he is a visionary genus doesn't make him "smart" about everything. I wouldn't be surprised if you asked him what todays date is he might not know it.

I wouldn't be surprised either since sometimes I don't even know what day it is

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

Maybe I'm reading too much into Ellon's one-word tweats as of late.

I wouldn't blame anyone as almost every Elon tweet is turned into a multi page article in the media with 800 comments.

 

[EVNow]

NOT lying. Just because he is a visionary genus doesn't make him "smart" about everything. I wouldn't be surprised if you asked him what todays date is he might not know it.

I don’t think I’ve kept track of the date for years. I only have a general idea and can probably guess +/- 2 days. But I do know the date on Fridays ….

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

I wouldn't be surprised either since sometimes I don't even know what day it is

Unless its Monday or Friday it doesn't really matter.

 

[Sigma4Life]

For non-FSD beta folks you may want to be VERY careful on future software releases. The last thing I want now is my radar being turned off, even with "reduced" PB events. Maybe I'm reading too much into Ellon's one-word tweats as of late. For me, it's working somewhat well with no PB and I'd prefer to keep it that way. Time to lag behind some software versions, it seems. BTW, I've never understood why so many want to upgrade immediately knowing it's going to break something, potentially critical. FOMO, I guess. I prefer functional.

I almost always want the latest software even though I know it’ll typically break a few things. That’s the software developer in me. I like to see the progress first hand even before it’s finished.

 

[aronth5]

I wonder if Elon has been caught up in this?

"One of the biggest mistakes people make, and I’m guilty of it too, is wishful thinking. You want something to be true, even if it isn’t true. And so you ignore the real truth because of what you want to be true. This is a very difficult trap to avoid" -EM

 

[Terminator857]

Elon points out that only Tesla is making money in the autonomous business.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497165237849632821

While Waymo is losing billions each year.

 

[Knightshade]

Elon didn't point that out- James did... Elon just laughed about it.

And that's.....a weird take... since they have $0.00 in earnings on actual autonomous features

All revenue for undelivered features can not be recognized until the features are delivered to customers.

Something James, being an accounting nerd, certainly knows.

 

[EVNow]

Elon didn't point that out- James did... Elon just laughed about it.

And that's.....a weird take... since they have $0.00 in earnings on actual autonomous features

All revenue for undelivered features can not be recognized until the features are delivered to customers.

Something James, being an accounting nerd, certainly knows.

Then he would know a lot of the FSD revenue is already recognized for features being delivered. Only city driving is remaining.

 

[momo3605]

Elon didn't point that out- James did... Elon just laughed about it.

And that's.....a weird take... since they have $0.00 in earnings on actual autonomous features

All revenue for undelivered features can not be recognized until the features are delivered to customers.

Something James, being an accounting nerd, certainly knows.

Most of the FSD feature set has been delivered. Only Auto Steer on City Streets has not. They can break that out however they want and recognize revenue

 

[Knightshade]

Then he would know a lot of the FSD revenue is already recognized for features being delivered. Only city driving is remaining.

Most of the FSD feature set has been delivered. Only Auto Steer on City Streets has not. They can break that out however they want and recognize revenue

But 0 of the delivered features are autonomous. They're all L2.

City streets will be as well.

So counting them as "autonomous" revenue makes little sense.

 

[EVNow]

But 0 of the delivered features are autonomous. They're all L2.

I don't care about stupid levels.

"Semi-autonomous" is still "autonomous".

 

[Knightshade]

I don't care about stupid levels.

"Semi-autonomous" is still "autonomous".

It's really not though.

Nothing Tesla currently offers is capable of performing the entire dynamic driving task on its own. It always requires active human overnight.

This isn't about 'stupid levels' it's about fundamentally lacking the ability to safety drive without a human, or even be able to reliably tell when it needs a human to take over (which is why it's incapable of L3 operation).


Tesla intends future development that will add those capabilities, but they don't have them yet- and they've booked $0.00 in GAAP income for those things.

 

[Goose66]

I don't care about stupid levels.

"Semi-autonomous" is still "autonomous".

Well then Toyota's revenue from selling cars with cruise-control (semi-autonomous) probably outpaces Tesla's by a factor of 5.

The argument of Waymo w/ Lidar vs Tesla's without is pointless in that they aren't designing, building, or marketing the same product. Waymo is making driverless taxis. Tesla is making consumer cars with advanced driver-assist features. No rational person actually believes that their current Tesla will be able to drive people around without a driver - not by the end of this year or by the end of this decade.

 

[sleepydoc]

I don't care about stupid levels.

"Semi-autonomous" is still "autonomous".

Sorry, FSD can’t effectively manage a 4 way stop sign or a traffic circle half the time. I know it’s in beta but you still can’t call it ‘autonomous‘ right now.

 

[JulienW]

.... I know it’s in beta but you still can’t call it ‘autonomous‘ right now.

I call mine lots of things everyday, out loud and by myself (want to be sure the car hears me). Most unfit for print and none as flattering as autonomous.

 

[sleepydoc]

I call mine lots of things everyday, out loud and by myself (want to be sure the car hears me). Most unfit for print and none as flattering as autonomous.

And right on cue - I took a different route to work that included a parkway. Slightly narrow but plenty wide enough for 2 cars, 20 MPH limit. FSD consistently drove on the wrong side of the road came to a full stop when a car approached and generally couldn’t manage. Even in the sections that had a dashed yellow line it wouldn’t stay on the correct side. Autonomous? Not.

 

[Dewg]

And right on cue - I took a different route to work that included a parkway. Slightly narrow but plenty wide enough for 2 cars, 20 MPH limit. FSD consistently drove on the wrong side of the road came to a full stop when a car approached and generally couldn’t manage. Even in the sections that had a dashed yellow line it wouldn’t stay on the correct side. Autonomous? Not.

That's terribly dangerous. You should report it immediately to Tesla and have a service appointment created.

 

[JulienW]

That's terribly dangerous. You should report it immediately to Tesla and have a service appointment created.

Service appointment???????? WTF are you talking about? How is a service appointment applicable to Beta????? Do you want the service adviser to read the "Beta can do the worst thing at the wrong time" line out loud to you?