My statement was a great example of how people's interpretation of how shadow braking (and other automated slowing) isn't really as bad as people think. The biggest factor is that it is unexpected, and people aren't braced for it.
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Elon: FSD Beta tweets
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My statement was a great example of how people's interpretation of how shadow braking (and other automated slowing) isn't really as bad as people think. The biggest factor is that it is unexpected, and people aren't braced for it.
This is the part that I don't agree with. The car absolutely can see that far and interpret at that distance. What seems to happen is that in a frame or two, something appears that makes the car believe that something is obstructing the road.
And don't come back with "See, it can't do it" Humans often misclassify things much closer than that.
In earlier releases, cars crossing the road in front of you, while you are at speed was an issue, the car was notorious about slowing down when it wasn't needed. In the last few days, a car passed in front of me, and it was indeed on the verge of needing me to stop. But the car slowed minimally for only a few seconds, probably just as I would have.
It's an example of how vision is only one part of the equation. Classification and response are big portions as well.
But then again, when the NoA software is replaced, we'll see what happens.
And they do, for all of those. BUT, humans have trained themselves over time to handle the situations.
"Eye floaters" Absolutely. If you have a big one break lose, especially if you have never had any, trust me, you are indeed going to be slowing quickly and hopefully pulling off the road.
It makes no sense to you, because you aren't seeing what the car is seeing. If you saw what the car was seeing, it may make a lot more sense to you.
My thoughts are that the car is reacting a little too much cautiously at a distance a little too far away. But then again, that's how the car drives today, too safe.
At what point do we disband this thread? Elon doesn’t tweet about things he doesn’t want everyone’s attention on, so fsd updates are not getting highlights.
Instead we get tweets objectifying women and tweets fighting people who try to sterilize of the English language of words and phrases that may offend or slight a group.
It’s fine. We just need to catch up with the times and priorities.
Instead we get tweets objectifying women and tweets fighting people who try to sterilize of the English language of words and phrases that may offend or slight a group.
It’s fine. We just need to catch up with the times and priorities.
Knightshade
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Have to say I really appreciate someone with your username asking us to 'drop' something
sleepydoc
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If they're only on 6.1 we have a long time before we get to the '6.69' version that the public gets!
Edit - wait...maybe we get version 6.9. that's only 8 more versions!
willow_hiller
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Just went through and checked the versions in your screenshot.
2023.6.1 is a mainstream release that we already have release notes for: 2023.6.1 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates
2023.2.200 is a factory firmware version for HW4 Model S/X.
And I've only found one person reporting to have 2023.2.100, but it was a factory firmware version for a 2023 Model Y LR 7 seater.
None of them appear to be employee releases, unfortunately. I think last we heard, 2022.45.5 was the employee V11.3 release.
I just finished that book (literally turned it in to the library this morning. Another point he makes very clearly is that the fast response accentuates the more dangerous plausible interpretation--that being survival favorable over picking less dangerous ones. Later revision on review allows us to get past that, but our initial response are often over-reactions for this reason.
EVNow
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willow_hiller
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I think Omar is in his "anti-shill" phase right now. He is upset his request for an invite to Investor Day was denied.
But it just goes to show that even he has disengagements; it's just that he wasn't posting them until now.
EVNow
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Ofcourse we don't know whether the car would have stopped. Kind of difficult situation with someone in the way right after taking a turn.
BTW, he has commented on bad "releases" and bugs before. See his Twitter feed.
Several YouTubers fell into that category..they knew that posting anything negative about FSD would put their invites and early access to releases, at risk..
willow_hiller
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Call me crazy, but those never came across as sincere to me. I always understood his "this release sucks" tweets as goading Elon into replying.
I think it might have hit the other car. Stepping through frames on the raw 1x version, there is no sign of any braking until Omar hits the brakes. Up till then the Tesla was still accelerating, as indicated in the visualization and had a solid blue line despite no longer having a path forward. I even ran through it multiple time to look for the hood drop, but nothing prior to manual braking.
Good save by Omar, in any case.
Just rented a Model Y in Arizona to drive up to Sedona and the Grand Canyon and was recalling the tweet from Elon that a feature allowing you to be able to load your profile on a Hertz rental Tesla (and presumably use your App and account) was coming. I think that was back in 2020? That feature must be stuck behind the feature where the visualizations will show other teslas on the road in the proper model and color which was also tweeted by Elon several years ago.
Does it have Cloud profile access , and have you put your own profiles into the cloud service?
More generally, how does the Hertz Tesla interface with your existing Tesla app?
I would love to be able to rent a Tesla and have my FSD beta available, but it sounds like that's not in the cards for several reasons.
It was a tweet somebody made in October of 2021 (specifically referring to Hertz rentals and user profiles and settings) and Elon replied "That feature is coming," which of course it wasn't and hasn't and probably never will. Just more of Elon's BS.
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