Daniel in SD
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Sounds like @AlanSubie4Life is the only one generating interventions these days. Will they need to extend the free trial to get more data?
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Elon: FSD Beta tweets
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
If only the driver had a way to give feedback for those cases.
True but you do realize Tesla likely gets hundred of thousands of interventions per day, not all of them are safety critical. It is still a lot of feedback to sift through to find the critical interventions from the not critical.
When you see Tesla reporting the ability to identify panicked drivers and angry drivers, you'll know they're making progress.
My feedback may not be of much help. I cannot remember the last time I had a critical safety disengagement.
I'd Google for it because Google has indexed everything for search. I assume Tesla is going to do the same thing with their video library. They'll run it through the V11 tools that were processing the information so that human-created driving heuristics could examine it. Instead of driving heuristics, they'll use search heuristics. So they process the clips once and then search many times. As they develop the search heuristics and their own expertise with using them, they'll be able to find the data they need.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
All edge cases for me too. Must be my driving style. Crazy stuff.
Free trial has to be extended otherwise their metrics will go down the tubes. Unless they release v11 to NoA/AP.
jeewee3000
Active Member
James Douma explained this as: "The fleet is a search engine, not a tape recorder."
Tesla talked about this on an AI day. They can query the fleet for examples resembling a clip/situation they're having trouble with.
As we've seen, that's not enough. They need simulations and real world test drivers for months (almost a year at this point) and still haven't made progress on some issues.
He ain't the only one. With 12.3.6 the car has been hugging the right lane of a three-lane high-speed road, nominal speed limit of 50 mph, with people in the left lane going 55+. The right lane moves at 35 mph with semis and little-old-somebodies crawling along. The car's not trying to move over one or two lanes and attempts to get over using the turn signal lever results in the signal getting cancelled.
It's happened at least thrice over the last few days. I've been intervening and complaining that the car's moving too slow.
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Guesses on what "Next Week" in Elon speak means? Maybe July for actual customer release? 
Hope it is not longer than "All cars get trial by the END of the WEEK" since 6 weeks later still hasn't happened.Guesses on what "Next Week" in Elon speak means? Maybe July for actual customer release?
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
Guesses on what "Next Week" in Elon speak means? Maybe July for actual customer release?
Some additional details as well. Sounds like 12.5 and 12.6 have the ability to shift into reverse, and send road closure data to the rest of the fleet.
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I interpreted the lol emoji to refer to a bunch of Teslas getting stuck in the same place. I think Elon was saying that having a bunch of Teslas getting stuck in the same place would be funny. I don't think Elon was saying that notifying the fleet is a joke.
willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
Elon implies 12.4 will be hands-free, in some capacity:
DanCar
Active Member
Seems monumental to me. Will it last? I have my doubts. Maybe the nags will return when issues mount?
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I will be happy when FSD is officially hands-free. There are definitely long stretches where I could go hands-free because FSD handles things well. My concern is more with the sudden "take over immediately" alerts that can be super jarring. And if there are no nags, and we are able to go hands-free for long periods of time, there will be some complacency that will set in and then to suddenly get a loud strident alert, can be very unsettling. So I think Tesla needs to make the "take over" alert process smoother, more gentle.
STOP the press.......Elon and Omar kissed 
and made up?
Wonder if this will be on all cars, even the ones without IR transmitters? Has Tesla perfected "Deep Eyes"
tracking and is it on par with "Deep Rain"? Wait........I had 2 dry wipes today so not sure it "Deep Rain" is perfected yet.
Could be Elon meant he "Fixed" his strained relationship with Omar
and not eliminating nag. Of course he has promised this before so a HUGE grain of salt.
and made up?Wonder if this will be on all cars, even the ones without IR transmitters? Has Tesla perfected "Deep Eyes"
tracking and is it on par with "Deep Rain"? Wait........I had 2 dry wipes today so not sure it "Deep Rain" is perfected yet.Could be Elon meant he "Fixed" his strained relationship with Omar
and not eliminating nag. Of course he has promised this before so a HUGE grain of salt.Seriously people? NHTSA is up Tesla's ass on driver monitoring - "Fixed" means the monitoring will be back, and that nag-free drives for 10 mins was a bug.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
I think he was referring to the way Waymos got stuck a while back getting into a cul-de-sac ?!
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