Valid point. Agreed. An unfortunate consequence of this age of sounds bites, fake news, click bait, and talking heads.
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Elon Tweeting about Thailand and Reputation
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Valid point. Agreed. An unfortunate consequence of this age of sounds bites, fake news, click bait, and talking heads.
Considering all the crap that people that can actually get things done get for actually helping, it's a wonder anyone does the right and humane thing at all. And yet decent people continue to do the right thing. And we will continue to argue about things we don't really know the whole story about. Thanks to @bonnie for filling in a piece of this puzzle. I remain in awe of most of the people in this community. The mission continues and so will the attempts to abort it.
JRP3
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That was my entire point as to why this may not be settled without comment.
How many CEOs has anyone written the following comment to "your June email exchange with the saboteur"? The fact that Tesla has a "saboteur" speaks volumes that these people just gloss over.
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
I cringe every time I see an 'open letter to elon' or posts with advice or whatever. I know they all mean well, but he's a grown man. It would be impossible for him not to know, one person giving him feedback (or a dozen) was probably enough - but all this well-meaning input is starting to feel just like more piling on, though less bullying and more sanctimonious.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Cave explorer, not a diver. This repeated misinformation makes it seem as if Elon went after one of the divers. As I understand it Vern was just an advisor with knowledge of the cave layout.
Guys like Ben Sullins and Gene Munster are sincere and well-meaning believers in Elon/Tesla, and I take their open letters as sincere efforts to share their feedback in hopes they would be heard.
@bonnie, @DaveT
i agree. they are obviously backing tesla. (note that i disagree with cnbc’s portrayal of it - btw i haven’t looked, watched, listened to cnbc or BI in days, screw them. done with them).
the best way to shut everyone up is with performance. the silly part is...that’s exactly what they did. production ramping excellent, a symphony of engineering, with great margins...that’s the story!
a stressful time for all. the haters will whittle you down to nothing if you let them.
time to take a breather, reflect, and get back in the drivers seat. there’s more work to be done. they need to keep kicking @ss and taking names. and the best way to do it is from within the walls of GF1 and fremont. don’t forget this, one of the best promo videos of all time
we gotta put this thread to bed
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And your physician. I had a trip a couple of years ago that included Thailand and my doc seemed to think that the reason was the brothels.
jhm
Well-Known Member
Savage Cave Diver Tells Elon Musk To "Stick His Submarine Where It Hurts"
A headline from Pedestrian TV (a platform targeting young Aussies) with a different slant than most others. Still not accurate in referring to Unsworth as a diver. And “savage” may be a little over the top.
Savage Cave Diver Tells Elon Musk To “Stick His Submarine Where It Hurts”
A headline from Pedestrian TV (a platform targeting young Aussies) with a different slant than most others. Still not accurate in referring to Unsworth as a diver. And “savage” may be a little over the top.
Savage Cave Diver Tells Elon Musk To “Stick His Submarine Where It Hurts”
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bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
I agree it was well-meaning. But there are a lot of well-meaning people offering their advice & it's starting to feel like being a teenager who knows they messed up & not only is Mom & Dad saying you messed up, but it appears everyone at church is offering their well-meaning opinion, along with neighbors.
Everyone is saying pretty much the same thing. I don't think it's helpful to continue sending him the same advice. But that's just me.
jhm
Well-Known Member
Interesting take. It overlooks the "pedo". Shows how journalistic framing makes a huge difference.
Aussie Cave Divers Say Thai Rescue Operation Nearly Went To Absolute *sugar*
I also found this. It gives some background relevant to Musk's take on how important the pumps were. The final boys were rescued within about an hour of catastrophic failure. Yikes!
This too, Elon Musk Is None Too Happy That People Are Laughing At His Submarine
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yes.
fwiw, I’m far more confident that Elon is soberly reflecting on the impact of his huge megaphone public statements than those in the media are with their many times larger megaphone public statements. those with empathetic advice to offer, please consider sharing some with the media.
jhm
Well-Known Member
If it was written before the pedo tweet, then is shows how the media may have spun the narrative had Musk never made those tweet. Pretty close to test and control for media response.
dmckinstry
Model X 2019
I don't remember the source, and can't find the source so can't confirm it , but have a clue of Elon's reference "pedo guy". Apparently Unsworth has a teenage Thai wife. What wasn't told was her current age, or her age when she married. Her age may such that he would be guilty of statutory rape in the U.S. I have no idea of the laws in Thailand, but they are probably much laxer there.
Someone with better internet search skills might be able to track down more information.
Someone with better internet search skills might be able to track down more information.
FirebirdAlpha
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"I don't have a source and can't look one up on the internet, but I'll post it here as if it's true."
Just ridiculous. Innocent until proven guilty. Insane.
Meanwhile, Elon doubling down:
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