UnknownSoldier
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This is exactly right.I have accepted the stock volatility. It is the CEO's volatility that is concerning me more right now.
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This is exactly right.I have accepted the stock volatility. It is the CEO's volatility that is concerning me more right now.
This is very well-said and bears repeating. We, as investors, expect responsible uses for the money we are investing in a company. I'm not giving Elon money to call people pedophiles apropos of nothing. That is a level of beyond the pale which would make our President blush. Elon deliberately makes himself the face of Tesla, and he should probably consider that being the face of Tesla is not unlike how Steve Jobs was the face of Apple for many years and maybe conduct himself a little more like Jobs and a little less like Trump.This is the the sort of news event that gets cut through to normal people, causing untold damage to Elon’s reputation. And because he has quite deliberately blurred the line between Tesla and himself, this damages the company, everyone that works there and all it’s financial investors.
The media coverage of the Thai rescue received blanket coverage globally. In the Uk there has even been talk about awarding the divers the George Cross, the highest civilian award for bravery. Publicly calling one of these people a peadophile and then doubling down on that? Superficially it’s too easy to portray as him getting angry because someone else got to be the hero.
Been an investor a long time, this is the first time I find myself hesitating about whether Tesla really is the right home for such a significant percentage of my retirement savings. Without its brand and it’s customers’ and employees’ zeal for the mission, in the long term it’s just another car company.
Been an investor a long time, this is the first time I find myself hesitating about whether Tesla really is the right home for such a significant percentage of my retirement savings. Without its brand and it’s customers’ and employees’ zeal for the mission, in the long term it’s just another car company.
Think about how seriously messed up this whole cave/tweet thing is and what it really says about life at Tesla:
- Elon thinks that he is so smart that he can design a useful cave extraction sub while he is in a swimming pool in LA. Despite the fact that he knows nothing about the cave, the currents, the dimensions, the time requirements, etc.
- Elon flies out to Thailand, inserts himself if the middle of a huge operation - and asks for a tour and to show off his (soon to be proven) useless sub. He demands time, logistics support, and generally gets in the way of the people who are doing real work.
- His efforts are obviously misguided, as anyone who has been in tight cave passages (I have) can tell you and as the expert in the situation in Thailand pointed out.
- His efforts are obviously too late since some of the boys were already out. But, Elon can't just chalk it up to "I tried" and move on.
- Instead, his ego is so fragile, that he goes to PR war with not one, but two of the people who actually rescued the boys.
- Then, days later, when the most experienced person in the situation calls him out on it, Elon not only goes to war with him, but then he promises to go back to the cave and show off his cave/sub prowess. Then, just to make sure everyone knows how crazy he is, - Elon accuses the rescue her of being a pedophile in a public forum. He shows no restraint and no dignity.
Can you imagine what it must be like to work for Musk? No wonder anyone who can leaves. No wonder their manufacturing lines are screwed up; the design of the M3 has problems, and quality is a frequent issue. I am sure no one ever crosses him at the company, even when his ideas are completely and obviously stupid. And no wonder when Musk makes promises that are totally at odds with reality, none of his employees call him out on it.
Think about how seriously messed up this whole cave/tweet thing is and what it really says about life at Tesla:
- Elon thinks that he is so smart that he can design a useful cave extraction sub while he is in a swimming pool in LA. Despite the fact that he knows nothing about the cave, the currents, the dimensions, the time requirements, etc.
- Elon flies out to Thailand, inserts himself if the middle of a huge operation - and asks for a tour and to show off his (soon to be proven) useless sub. He demands time, logistics support, and generally gets in the way of the people who are doing real work.
- His efforts are obviously misguided, as anyone who has been in tight cave passages (I have) can tell you and as the expert in the situation in Thailand pointed out.
- His efforts are obviously too late since some of the boys were already out. But, Elon can't just chalk it up to "I tried" and move on.
- Instead, his ego is so fragile, that he goes to PR war with not one, but two of the people who actually rescued the boys.
- Then, days later, when the most experienced person in the situation calls him out on it, Elon not only goes to war with him, but then he promises to go back to the cave and show off his cave/sub prowess. Then, just to make sure everyone knows how crazy he is, - Elon accuses the rescue her of being a pedophile in a public forum. He shows no restraint and no dignity.
Can you imagine what it must be like to work for Musk? No wonder anyone who can leaves. No wonder their manufacturing lines are screwed up; the design of the M3 has problems, and quality is a frequent issue. I am sure no one ever crosses him at the company, even when his ideas are completely and obviously stupid. And no wonder when Musk makes promises that are totally at odds with reality, none of his employees call him out on it.
Lots of reporters were in Thailand. Someone tipped him off. News will come soon.I just want to know where Elon got the info that the guy was a pedo. I cannot find any info or accusations online about the guy.
It's likely there is no evidence. Elon was probably out blowing off some steam after a long 6 months of production hell and tweeted under the influence.I just want to know where Elon got the info that the guy was a pedo. I cannot find any info or accusations online about the guy.
It's likely there is no evidence. Elon was probably out blowing off some steam after a long 6 months of production hell and tweeted under the influence.
Maybe but that's such an odd, serious thing to say about someone without any facts.
This is exactly right.
Agree. Oddly specific insult. There are plenty of other insults he could have used.
I just want to know where Elon got the info that the guy was a pedo. I cannot find any info or accusations online about the guy.
New theory, british dive team leader stanton is the one who told Elon that vern is a pedo. Now Elon is collecting the evidence.
I’m starting to get a little concerned that the thousands of fake twitter accounts and the few actually real accounts who have their facts twisted by all the fud are taking a toll on Elon. I kinda wish he would just stop replying. I’m new to the forum so not sure if this is the best place to make this comment, if not point me in the right direction. Seems obvious to me they are trying to get him to crack. I actually fear for his safety. Is this crazy? Seems like big oil and the other automakers are getting extremely threatened by him and the crap is really ramping up.