Good article: Elon Musk 'pedo guy' faux pas fuels polarization problem
And came across this great post on twitter from Bonnie Norman, who I think used to be a moderator here (emphasis below is my own)
This should be how you do twitter:
"Get your coffee. This is going to be a thread...
This is my thread, you don't have to be here. You can choose to move on. Or you can be part of a conversation. You don't have to agree. But if you can't be civil, move on please. Name calling? Instant block. You are out of the convo. Calling someone a troll or a fanboy? Blocked. Dismissive labels say 'you're immaterial' and kills actual discourse. If you want to comment, use your words.
Also, let's get this out of the way up front: Yes, calling someone a 'pedo' is no better. Apologies are owed. But if you're one of the people with the faux outrage, sit down. You don't get to attack someone repeatedly & then clutch your pearls while reaching for your smelling salts when your target finally reacts. You're a bully. I subscribe to life being a team sport, not a competition. I don't get ahead by bring you down. And it may be a bit of a surprise, but you don't make gains in life that matter by taking others down.
I have watched for over a week as mob mentality has taken over. Evidence that Elon's help was welcomed? Ignored. More evidence? Ignored. But a British diver says Elon can 'stick his submarine where it hurts' & it's a mob feeding frenzy. The media loves a fight. Fights bring clicks. Clicks bring cash. The diver produced a golden nugget of a quote, amplified by the mob FAR beyond actual significance .... and shorts/oil interests/competitors cheered you on. Mob. Mentality. It's all so knee-jerk. "I'm canceling my reservation because he gave monies to my enemies!!". Okay, let me know when your gas car can run on moral outrage & you don't actually need to buy gas. No conflict there.
Critical thinking and just being a decent human being seems to be taking some time off. There are a lot of special interests with a vested interest in seeing Tesla taken down. Most of you are being used by those people to further those interests. And some of you ARE those people. I see you.
I've really been disappointed in the human race this last week. Instead of being willing to recognize genuine offers of help, giving $/resources are requested, a mob decides to cyber bully. And when the bullying target reacts, you celebrate drawing blood. I'm disgusted. Why is this blood-letting necessary. If you're short, make your arguments on the merits (and I know that some of you do). There is no need to make this personal, but wow. You guys know you do. You look for buttons to push and stomp them hard. It makes me want to withdraw from the human race - but I'm not ready to cede the narrative to the mob. So here I am.
Seriously, if you're short TSLA, trust your own decisions. You don't need to tear others down. Attack the numbers.
Thankfully, twitter is not the world. Most people can't hide behind an anonymous name, hoping you'll believe they have actual balls in real life. I have enjoyed seeing some anon accounts held accountable. Actions should have consequences. I don't get to rob a bank wearing a mask & then object to being caught because 'I wore a mask, dammit!!'. Episcopalian guilt over my enjoyment. #NotPerfectObviously
For me, credibility is completely shot when a self-proclaimed whistleblower runs first to the media over concerns for investors, then the story changes to safety concerns - but doesn't go to a govt agency first w those concerns. Not how it works. The self-proclaimed whistleblower runs to the media outlet run by the guy who can no longer work in the securities biz. Not a recognized news outlet. If YOU were concerned, is that what you'd do? Corp espionage and sabotage is a real thing, btw. Scared to report internally? There is not a single person that works on a factory floor that doesn't know about OSHA. Even YOU know about OSHA. So I call bs. Going to the media doesn't pass the whistleblower test. So I'm waiting on the court case. Truth seeks sunlight. And hopefully disinfects the stench of Twitter lately.
But let's be real: Some of you have really bad body odor, tbh.
So who are you? Are you just part of the mob? Are you tearing down a man because you need/want to see a company fail? Blood sport? Does it make you feel better about yourself? I've publicly been clear why I'm a fan of the company. I'm also a fan of Elon's. Saying I'm a fan doesn't mean 'blind idolization', btw. No one is perfect. Tough to work for? Better know your stuff. He's driven, his words are rarely carefully chosen (though that may be in the pro column, dunno). And he actually cares. Because he cares, this whole twitter mob has to be even more painful. It doesn't matter how many followers someone has - blood is drawn by nasty comments. None of us are immune to that. Not me, not you. No one.
Thailand, Flint - it's not a PR game, though so many jaded people scream that it is - I suspect because they're projecting their own belief system and what they'd do. That's the only way some people can understand why someone would help someone else. He's got kids. He cares about their future. And everyone is grabbing pitchforks & torches, bullying someone that has actually been making a positive difference. People suck sometimes. Be better. Twitter is not the real world.
Sadly, lazy news orgs use info they find here on twitter to write salacious headlines and stories, so this stench leaks out. But I personally don't have to be part of it. I'm going to sink my toes in the dirt today & just breathe. "
And came across this great post on twitter from Bonnie Norman, who I think used to be a moderator here (emphasis below is my own)
This should be how you do twitter:
"Get your coffee. This is going to be a thread...
This is my thread, you don't have to be here. You can choose to move on. Or you can be part of a conversation. You don't have to agree. But if you can't be civil, move on please. Name calling? Instant block. You are out of the convo. Calling someone a troll or a fanboy? Blocked. Dismissive labels say 'you're immaterial' and kills actual discourse. If you want to comment, use your words.
Also, let's get this out of the way up front: Yes, calling someone a 'pedo' is no better. Apologies are owed. But if you're one of the people with the faux outrage, sit down. You don't get to attack someone repeatedly & then clutch your pearls while reaching for your smelling salts when your target finally reacts. You're a bully. I subscribe to life being a team sport, not a competition. I don't get ahead by bring you down. And it may be a bit of a surprise, but you don't make gains in life that matter by taking others down.
I have watched for over a week as mob mentality has taken over. Evidence that Elon's help was welcomed? Ignored. More evidence? Ignored. But a British diver says Elon can 'stick his submarine where it hurts' & it's a mob feeding frenzy. The media loves a fight. Fights bring clicks. Clicks bring cash. The diver produced a golden nugget of a quote, amplified by the mob FAR beyond actual significance .... and shorts/oil interests/competitors cheered you on. Mob. Mentality. It's all so knee-jerk. "I'm canceling my reservation because he gave monies to my enemies!!". Okay, let me know when your gas car can run on moral outrage & you don't actually need to buy gas. No conflict there.
Critical thinking and just being a decent human being seems to be taking some time off. There are a lot of special interests with a vested interest in seeing Tesla taken down. Most of you are being used by those people to further those interests. And some of you ARE those people. I see you.
I've really been disappointed in the human race this last week. Instead of being willing to recognize genuine offers of help, giving $/resources are requested, a mob decides to cyber bully. And when the bullying target reacts, you celebrate drawing blood. I'm disgusted. Why is this blood-letting necessary. If you're short, make your arguments on the merits (and I know that some of you do). There is no need to make this personal, but wow. You guys know you do. You look for buttons to push and stomp them hard. It makes me want to withdraw from the human race - but I'm not ready to cede the narrative to the mob. So here I am.
Seriously, if you're short TSLA, trust your own decisions. You don't need to tear others down. Attack the numbers.
Thankfully, twitter is not the world. Most people can't hide behind an anonymous name, hoping you'll believe they have actual balls in real life. I have enjoyed seeing some anon accounts held accountable. Actions should have consequences. I don't get to rob a bank wearing a mask & then object to being caught because 'I wore a mask, dammit!!'. Episcopalian guilt over my enjoyment. #NotPerfectObviously
For me, credibility is completely shot when a self-proclaimed whistleblower runs first to the media over concerns for investors, then the story changes to safety concerns - but doesn't go to a govt agency first w those concerns. Not how it works. The self-proclaimed whistleblower runs to the media outlet run by the guy who can no longer work in the securities biz. Not a recognized news outlet. If YOU were concerned, is that what you'd do? Corp espionage and sabotage is a real thing, btw. Scared to report internally? There is not a single person that works on a factory floor that doesn't know about OSHA. Even YOU know about OSHA. So I call bs. Going to the media doesn't pass the whistleblower test. So I'm waiting on the court case. Truth seeks sunlight. And hopefully disinfects the stench of Twitter lately.
But let's be real: Some of you have really bad body odor, tbh.
So who are you? Are you just part of the mob? Are you tearing down a man because you need/want to see a company fail? Blood sport? Does it make you feel better about yourself? I've publicly been clear why I'm a fan of the company. I'm also a fan of Elon's. Saying I'm a fan doesn't mean 'blind idolization', btw. No one is perfect. Tough to work for? Better know your stuff. He's driven, his words are rarely carefully chosen (though that may be in the pro column, dunno). And he actually cares. Because he cares, this whole twitter mob has to be even more painful. It doesn't matter how many followers someone has - blood is drawn by nasty comments. None of us are immune to that. Not me, not you. No one.
Thailand, Flint - it's not a PR game, though so many jaded people scream that it is - I suspect because they're projecting their own belief system and what they'd do. That's the only way some people can understand why someone would help someone else. He's got kids. He cares about their future. And everyone is grabbing pitchforks & torches, bullying someone that has actually been making a positive difference. People suck sometimes. Be better. Twitter is not the real world.
Sadly, lazy news orgs use info they find here on twitter to write salacious headlines and stories, so this stench leaks out. But I personally don't have to be part of it. I'm going to sink my toes in the dirt today & just breathe. "
