Elon & Twitter

[Norbert]

230 does not protect publishers, it specifically gives immunity to web sites on the grounds they they are not publishers. Twitter was acting like a publisher when they suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story as well as posts on Covid, vaccines and the 2020 election (but not, for example, when they removed obscene pics of Hunter Biden as permitted by safe harbor clauses).

Becoming a publisher for some content does not mean you lose 230 protections for everything. But Democrat and Republican politicians are both talking about more broadly stripping 230 protections from Twitter and other social media sites. So we'll see how it goes.

Not a lawyer, but apparently rules against doxing, hate speech, misinformation and the like don't count as "selecting content" (or not so far).
And actually having such rules on a platform is protected by the freedom of speech laws.

My impression is that "selecting content" would be an act where each content posted is approved by the platform.

 

[InDaClub]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638297624410222602

 

[B@ndit]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638297624410222602

I’ve got some ocean front property in Ohio super cheap you might be interested in if you believe that tweet.

 

[thx1139]

I’ve got some ocean front property in Ohio super cheap you might be interested in if you believe that tweet.

Someone tweeted it then it must be true.

 

[JRP3]

If Doge Designer says it's true it must be.

 

[spacerfc]

It's increasingly clear by now that the mass firing and austerity measures Elon Musk implemented at Twitter is very much the correct move under the current economic circumstances, now every SV company is following suit, even Google is doing it:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/20/tech/google-layoffs-employee-culture/index.html

 

[spacerfc]

Someone tweeted it then it must be true.

Hardly, they got a 3rd party consulting company's study to prove it: How Sprinklr Helps Identify and Measure Toxic Content with AI

 

[Crutonius]

It's increasingly clear by now that the mass firing and austerity measures Elon Musk implemented at Twitter is very much the correct move under the current economic circumstances, now every SV company is following suit, even Google is doing it:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/20/tech/google-layoffs-employee-culture/index.html

Every company is firing 75% of their workforce?

 

[spacerfc]

World population continues to increase, as does the population of France. Paris is burning because of a stupid action by Macron.

That is just your opinion, plenty of people with better credential disagree with you:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638231521902338079

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638234064720207872

 

[spacerfc]

Every company is firing 75% of their workforce?

Of course not, that's like saying each company's stock should tank the same percentage during a downturn, that's just stupid.

 

[ggies07]

That is just your opinion, plenty of people with better credential disagree with you:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638231521902338079

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638234064720207872

So basically this gives 100% reason to develop and use bots and in no way should any gov't not implement a UBI. You want to maximize productivity for as long as possible? Fine. Here's a bot and let humans live their last decade or so with some dignity.

 

[bkp_duke]

That is just your opinion, plenty of people with better credential disagree with you:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638231521902338079

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638234064720207872

SPOT on. People don't like it, but this is a math problem, plain and simple.

The older generations are living longer, and the younger generations are not having as many kids. It is mathematically impossible for the younger generation to make enough $$$ and contribute it to any nationalized pension/retirement system without running massive deficits.

The United States also increased the age for Social Security Benefits from 65 to 67, and the decision was completely math based. France is literally decades behind in this decision.

Increase in Retirement Age

 

[Norbert]

But GDP is going up... productivity is increasing.

 

[stopcrazypp]

Of course not, that's like saying each company's stock should tank the same percentage during a downturn, that's just stupid.

Well I think the point is it's just as stupid to say just because other companies are firing too, that it's the same thing as what was done at Twitter. I've made the point a billion times upthread, but Twitter would have fired people and downsized even if the sale didn't go through, due to the economic downturn. But the scale at which it would have been necessary would have been much, much less, and Twitter would have still been able to make a profit.

The impression that was trying to be pushed by Elon was that the company would have been a money loser without the sale and that Twitter was never profitable (I see a lot of people still think that). The reality is the drastic cuts (not only to staff, but also in terms of being late on rent and vendor bills) only became necessary because of the huge amount of debt loaded onto the company due to the sale, and the policies that scared off advertisers (forcing Twitter to offer huge discounts to get them to come back).

 

[Crutonius]

Of course not, that's like saying each company's stock should tank the same percentage during a downturn, that's just stupid.

But Elon's company's tanked the most and also laid off the most percentage. Does this mean Elon wins? I'm sorry. I'm having a hard time following your logic.

 

[Bouba]

It appears that Elon is not distracted by his new toy

Tesla Price Cuts Show There's a Method to Musk's Madness

The electric-vehicle maker's annual growth in EU registrations of nearly 50% outstripped that of industry peers such as Volkswagen.

www.barrons.com

 

[Doggydogworld]

It appears that Elon is not distracted by his new toy

Tesla Price Cuts Show There's a Method to Musk's Madness

The electric-vehicle maker's annual growth in EU registrations of nearly 50% outstripped that of industry peers such as Volkswagen.

www.barrons.com

Europe is entirely driven by 95g quotas. I predicted years ago Euro EV sales would climb dramatically in 2020 and 2021, and Tesla would lose share. Then legacy EV sales would flatten in 2022 and 2023, opening the door for Tesla to regain some of that lost share. So far everything is going to script. The next big legacy ramp should start to kick in next year.

 

[JRP3]

It appears that Elon is not distracted by his new toy

Besides the mountain of evidence to the contrary how do you think Tesla cutting prices supports your claim in any way?

 

[Bouba]

Besides the mountain of evidence to the contrary how do you think Tesla cutting prices supports your claim in any way?

It re energised sales

 

[JRP3]

It re energised sales

What does that have to do with Elon's daily distraction with Twitter? Are you trying to say that Elon can't be distracted by Twitter because Tesla changed pricing?