I remember being interviewed by them 12months ago. They wen to quite a lot of trouble getting input from people and it has been super quiet since that brisk intro.
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Engie Australian EV charging network
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My regular bump given we are now into 2023..
Engie has now just over 9 months to rollout 103 sites based on this Arena page.
arena.gov.au
Interesting also they have published a lessons learned report.
Compared to BP Pulse who have started from nowhere in September and now have a dozen chargers in the ground, it's pretty poor.
Engie has now just over 9 months to rollout 103 sites based on this Arena page.
ENGIE Future Fuels Public Fast Charging
This ENGIE Future Fuels Public Fast Charging project will increase the availability of public fast-charging infrastructure.
arena.gov.au
Interesting also they have published a lessons learned report.
Compared to BP Pulse who have started from nowhere in September and now have a dozen chargers in the ground, it's pretty poor.
In 12 months time people will be complaining about the BP network unreliability whilst praising Engie.My regular bump given we are now into 2023..
Engie has now just over 9 months to rollout 103 sites based on this Arena page.
ENGIE Future Fuels Public Fast Charging
This ENGIE Future Fuels Public Fast Charging project will increase the availability of public fast-charging infrastructure.
Interesting also they have published a lessons learned report.
Compared to BP Pulse who have started from nowhere in September and now have a dozen chargers in the ground, it's pretty poor.
Chuq
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Funny that their "Lessons learned" is basically stuff the rest of us have learned from watching the other providers.
Remember BP started their installations in September. That doesn't mean they started their entire process then.
The other interesting items are their frequent comment about demand and selecting sites which can be expanded easily, and references to "its delivery partner JET Charge".
Remember BP started their installations in September. That doesn't mean they started their entire process then.
The other interesting items are their frequent comment about demand and selecting sites which can be expanded easily, and references to "its delivery partner JET Charge".
From the Engie lessons learned:
That does not seem likely in the Australian context. Regional areas might be low density but they're often on the driving routes between major centres. There wasn't queuing at Gundagai or Port Macquarie this summer because they're busy urban centres!
Quite apart from the time to develop new sites, queueing theory says you'll get more benefit from one site of 12 chargers than two nearby sites of 6 chargers.
I was interviewed by Engie (along with others on this forum) in the early days. There was quite a focus on billing.
I currently have something like 10 charging Apps (I include Plugshare).
I wonder if Engie will go with yet another one or will take a different approach?
NRMA will be releasing yet-another-App over the following few months. Maybe they will integrate with Chargefox?
I currently have something like 10 charging Apps (I include Plugshare).
I wonder if Engie will go with yet another one or will take a different approach?
NRMA will be releasing yet-another-App over the following few months. Maybe they will integrate with Chargefox?
Chuq
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I notice Engie's report has references to "its delivery partner JET Charge". Similar to the WA Electric Highway, who have said they'll be using Chargefox.
I would guess Chargefox is also a good fit for NRMA due to the overlapping ownership as you suggest.
There will be riots if the NRMA chargers are not in the Chargefox app.
NSW funding is tied to supporting Opal Digital which is just an upcoming Opal branded prepaid Mastercard.
NRMA has certainly planned their own app and it's still listed as Coming Soon on the website
Charging an electric vehicle
Charging your vehicle as if it were a mobile phone will be a new concept for many. Understanding the technology and best practices around charging is crucial to make EV ownership a comfortable experience.
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But that was before the Chargefox acquisition (though noting that NRMA only partially owns Chargefox).
Agree Chargefox would be sensible for NRMA as it would put the main Govt supported networks in Qld (Yurika), NSW (NRMA), WA and ultimately SA on the same app.
Just missing Vic CTR network where Evie has most of the sites.
But can only see Engie having their own app.
Notably Engie is funded under the 2021 Fed Govt Arena funds - so no requirement for contactless or Opal cards.
Might we finally be seeing the first Engie rollout.
Grand Plaza is a Vicinity Centre.
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Grand Plaza is a Vicinity Centre.
Tesla Owners Australia | New Charging Stations coming soon to Grande Plaza at Brownsplains, located upstairs carpark on the southern side of the centre.
New Charging Stations coming soon to Grande Plaza at Brownsplains, located upstairs carpark on the southern side of the centre.
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FWIW RAA Charge is now using the Chargefox app / network, and NRMA mentioned at Fully Charged that that was one of their options (they said they definitely didn't want *another* app for EV charging, and it would be in their existing NRMA app, or perhaps Chargefox like RAA)NRMA has certainly planned their own app and it's still listed as Coming Soon on the website
Charging an electric vehicle
Charging your vehicle as if it were a mobile phone will be a new concept for many. Understanding the technology and best practices around charging is crucial to make EV ownership a comfortable experience.
But that was before the Chargefox acquisition (though noting that NRMA only partially owns Chargefox).
Agree Chargefox would be sensible for NRMA as it would put the main Govt supported networks in Qld (Yurika), NSW (NRMA), WA and ultimately SA on the same app.
Just missing Vic CTR network where Evie has most of the sites.
And Engie finally shows up to the rollout party.
Spotted by Giles at Victoria Gardens in Richmond l, Melbourne.
Even better they are using Kempower hardware and the Chargefox app.
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Not yet on the app so pricing unknown.
But from the display 100kW (possibly split 50/50 ?)
Spotted by Giles at Victoria Gardens in Richmond l, Melbourne.
Even better they are using Kempower hardware and the Chargefox app.
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Not yet on the app so pricing unknown.
But from the display 100kW (possibly split 50/50 ?)
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From further photos it's a single Chargefox ID (4700).
With A/B being CHAdeMO / CCS2 and C/D being CCS2/ CCS2.
The A stall shows 400V/ 50kW and the other stalls show 800V/ 100kW.
Will be interesting to see what the cables are rated at - so whether it can actually provide 100kW to a Tesla (or whether it's like the AMPCharge sites), and also if the 100kW is split between all four or just a pair.
With A/B being CHAdeMO / CCS2 and C/D being CCS2/ CCS2.
The A stall shows 400V/ 50kW and the other stalls show 800V/ 100kW.
Will be interesting to see what the cables are rated at - so whether it can actually provide 100kW to a Tesla (or whether it's like the AMPCharge sites), and also if the 100kW is split between all four or just a pair.
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Another Vicinity shopping centre with Engie under construction. No orange chargefox adornment yet, nor stall painting, assume this is to come.And Engie finally shows up to the rollout party.
Spotted by Giles at Victoria Gardens in Richmond l, Melbourne.
Even better they are using Kempower hardware and the Chargefox app.
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And Lake Haven SC on the Central Coast NSW
Lake Haven Shopping Centre | PlugShare
EV chargers coming soon to Lake Haven Shopping Centre. Stations are in the underground car park opposite the car wash in the corner. Vicinity Centre so expected to be Engie Kempower chargers on the Chargefox network...
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Looks like Victoria Gardens, Richmond, Vic is open
Charging $0.45/kWh and listed as up to 100kW.
Charging $0.45/kWh and listed as up to 100kW.
Chuq
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Pretty competitive rate! I guess the deal is you might get 100 kW but you might also max out at 50 kW.
