EV-CPO.com CPO Consolidator support thread

[SD_Engnr]

Simple.
If the Tesla is limited to $55K, then that means the ICE car is limited to $40K, as it will cost $15K extra over 8 years for the gas to drive the ICE vs driving the Tesla. It's tough to get anything nice in ICE for $40K compared to what you can get in a Tesla for a bit more than $55K.

Eh, she would love it if we spent $40k or less on a car or suv! Also, given our electricity rates, it will run me around $11.5k more for ICE.

Otherwise, you're preaching to the choir! I've done a variety of analyses to account for fuel costs vs electricity, and it has yet to work. It's so weird, since she's quite conscious about the environment, and has also realized that her car is no longer sufficient for hauling our family around. She thinks the "more affordable" Model 3 is the answer, but it's actually looking to be the same size as her current car...

Anyways, we shall see what happens this weekend. I'm looking forward to whatever Elon plans to announce on Sunday, and also her reaction to the ICE cars we check out.

 

[personthing]

I feel your pain. I'm limited (by wife) to a budget of $55k (no clue why, she just likes that number), and I'm probably going to end up with another ICE
We need the size of the S, and want the range of an 85, minimum performance of the P85+, and a 4 yr warranty, all for $55k. Can't seem to check all of the boxes, so we're ICE-hunting this weekend. Barf. Hopefully we fail, and I convince her to like the number $70k, as that opens up our options quite a bit.

If only the Model Y was being released instead of the 3...

Sorry for off topic commentary! Love your site Hank!

My CPO P85 has a 4yr / 50k warranty for $54k. It was never listed online, but pre-dated all the 2yr warranty cars that came a week or two after I ordered. Granted it's not a +, but it seems like there's hope. There are a few + at 58-60k if you can go up even a little.

I'm curious what your electricity cost and gas cost is in SD? Fuel savings + 3rd row seat (we have a 3 and 5yo) were all that was necessary to convince the wife. That and she's pretty environmentally aware / concerned.

 

[SD_Engnr]

Fuel = $3.15/gal
Elec = $.19 - $.24 per kWh (SDG&E has terrible rates)

I'll see about reaching out to a CPO advisor again.

 

[personthing]

Ouch! Your electric provider doesn't have any off-peak plans, do they?

It's $0.033 per kWh for my EV rate plan here (Xcel in MN). Granted gas is a little cheaper too, but often goes over $3/gal anyway.

Best of luck w/ the CPO advisor.

 

[SD_Engnr]

Ouch! Your electric provider doesn't have any off-peak plans, do they?

It's $0.033 per kWh for my EV rate plan here (Xcel in MN). Granted gas is a little cheaper too, but often goes over $3/gal anyway.

Best of luck w/ the CPO advisor.

That is off-peak for EV charging. On-peak is $.50/kWh !!!

 

[bkp_duke]

That is off-peak for EV charging. On-peak is $.50/kWh !!!

Yep, and this is why SDG&E has some of the highest install rates for residential solar. Idiots don't understand that they are driving their customers to solar+battery.

 

[personthing]

That is off-peak for EV charging. On-peak is $.50/kWh !!!

Holy $&*#!

I figured CA was more expensive, but wow.. sorry, man. I guess maybe Tesla's "national average $0.12/kWh" advertising isn't necessarily underselling after all. Definitely makes me appreciate MN a bit more, even if our weather sucks.

 

[SmartElectric]

That is off-peak for EV charging. On-peak is $.50/kWh !!!

You need solar...

 

[SD_Engnr]

You need solar...

We plan to go Solar, but right now we use an average of 330 kWh per month. It's hard to pay a company $14k to offset ~$60/month of electricity. Will make more sense once we have at least 1 EV.

 

[Buster1]

Hank, great site. Thanks. I'm on it daily now, scouring and searching and trying different options to see what fits my budget on a CPO.

Question, and I apologize if it was asked earlier...is there a way to screen for solid roof cars? I see sunroof, glass roof, etc. I'm wondering if that option can be added?

Thanks!

 

[HankLloydRight]

Question, and I apologize if it was asked earlier...is there a way to screen for solid roof cars? I see sunroof, glass roof, etc. I'm wondering if that option can be added?

Thanks for your feedback!

Are you looking for "body color roof" or "black roof" or either?

I didn't include those originally as "must have" options because the overwhelming majority of cars have the Pano/Sunroof, and that's the option most people desire. I can certainly add "solid roof" as a "must have" option.

Ok, I've added both as "must have" options for Model S.

 

[Buster1]

Personally, solid body colored roof. I'm seriously considering it...but you're right, they are hard to find.

Thank you for making an awesome website!

 

[HankLloydRight]

You're welcome. You'll need to refresh the page to see the new options.

 

[Buster1]

Wow, the was fast! Thank you!

 

[HankLloydRight]

Better than watching Saturday morning cartoons!

 

[Chargersflyer]

Hank,

Great site and I appreciate your responsiveness on this forum and in making changes to the site. This question is for anybody but I figured you may know and it seems relevant to the CPO process. I typically am looking at VIN numbers to determine which vehicle is "newer" in a given year but is there a way to tell the manufacture date or month from the VIN? If so, anyway to make advanced filters around key dates for things like folding mirrors, etc. the minor improvements that seem to be constantly occurring vs. the major items like AP1 vs 2. Thanks again for your help finding my Tesla.

Gavin

 

[HankLloydRight]

Thanks for your comments!

I'm sorry, but I really don't have any good answers for you. There's no way to infer production date (year/month) from the VIN or the option codes. The only way to do that is to (a) call Tesla and ask, (b) get access to the car and look at the VIN plate, or (c) find the original window sticker -- maybe other folks know of some other way? VINs are not assigned in production order, so a VIN built on Day X could older or newer than VIN+1.

In terms of other early options like folding mirrors or parking sensors you can search by individual option code (with a subscription), but again, not by VIN range or date cutoff. The only hard VIN cutoff I know about is the TPMS version at VIN 50900.

That said, this page might give you some insights on options and timings:: Model S - Options by Year - Tesla Motors Club Wiki

Good luck, and let me know if you have any other questions.

 

[Cheerose]

Thanks Hank! (And everyone else that answered questions).
I'll post a little more details on the CPO website thread, but I just put a deposit down on a CPO 60. Didn't have the roof or Sound Studio, but was definitely within my budget ( as well as having Tech & Active Air).

 

[jayazusa]

I noticed in you color selection you do not have the "Titanium Metallic" option, is it possible to add that selection. thanks, Jay

 

[HankLloydRight]

I noticed in you color selection you do not have the "Titanium Metallic" option, is it possible to add that selection. thanks, Jay

You are correct! It was being excluded. But I've now included it in the "Brown" color selection, just as Tesla does on their website.

Thanks.