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Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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Damnit. Still isn’t working properly. I can’t work out for the life of me what I can do about it. Anyone come across this?
What rate is it discharging at? ... You shouldn't even be discharging anything (other than the very short odd spike) to the grid from the battery since you dont have the export menu.

Is your phone paired with the powewall? (I dont know what divergence this would make)

What I would do is turn off your master breaker in the gateway (have a look at your manual as this might include a suggested sequence for the other breakers in there) and then turn off your master breaker as to reboot the gateway.

Also sign yourself off from the app and then back in and check if you have the export menu after this.

If the problem persists get in touch with tesla.
 
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What rate is it discharging at? ... You shouldn't even be discharging anything (other than the very short odd spike) to the grid from the battery since you dont have the export menu.

Is your phone paired with the powewall? (I dont know what divergence this would make)

What I would do is turn off your master breaker in the gateway (have a look at your manual as this might include a suggested sequence for the other breakers in there) and then turn off your master breaker as to reboot the gateway.

Also sign yourself off from the app and then back in and check if you have the export menu after this.

If the problem persists get in touch with tesla.

Thanks both. Sorry, what should my app look like on iPhone?

For a bit of background, I’m PW2, installed over 5 years ago. Was on TEG as soon as it launched, and then moved onto Flux. Just moved onto Intelligent Go.

Worth also adding I don’t see a reserve setting for eg. My Powerwall doesn’t work off-grid atm, it was installed before that functionality existed, although I could retrofit
 
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Update from Tesla. So even though I’ve been exporting for years, they’re adamant I wasn’t set up to export directly from the battery (solar only), so I had to send them some information in order that they can provide the functionality (!)

I couldn’t be bothered to argue, other than pointing out that I was exporting energy before sunrise :)

So sent them DNO letter and they enabled it, so we’ll see if that helps when the app updates.

They also said that the battery is showing negative loads, which seems odd. We’ll see what happens, might need to contact my installer.
 
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Had intermittent issues with the car not charging properly over the last 18 months. Octopus suggested removing and re-adding the device. I'm now stuck with a request for a qr code when i try to add the car back into the app. What qr code? Octopus don't know, and the "smart"team are supposed to have contacted me and, as i predicted, have not done so. I've reinstalled the octopus app to no avail. Any ideas?
 
I see... You're just swapping the car..thought you were swapping tarif. Looks tricky. I dont use the car for IO and my brain is melted at the moment after spending all morning troubleshooting a car that won't precondition... Unfortunately, it's not a tesla.... Wish I could swap problems with you at the moment :rolleyes:
 
Having controlled the charge correctly overnight, I’ve lost the devices panel from the app. When I go through to add a new device I am asked to scan a QR code. What QR code?
Looks like octopus are having server issues this morning!
I have lost the device tab as well.

10.51am edit : Just deleted the app, and re-installed, on my phone and the device tab is back and working
 
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Having controlled the charge correctly overnight, I’ve lost the devices panel from the app. When I go through to add a new device I am asked to scan a QR code. What QR code?
I asked the same question yesterday and am still awaiting a response from Octopus despite them saying someone would email me on Friday. Any ideas what this QR code is anyone? Reinstalling the app made no difference.
 
Figured it out. DON'T GO TO ADD DEVICES in settings. Instead, scroll down on the home screen and find the Explore our Lab section. There's a panel that says "Intelligent Octopus Go for EVs". Hit the Get Started button and you're away.

Why oh why does it take someone from the smart team to tell me this very basic but misleading method of adding an EV. Why can't someone at the end of the phone at Octopus tell me??? Pretty astonishing lack of customer service there.
 
Figured it out. DON'T GO TO ADD DEVICES in settings. Instead, scroll down on the home screen and find the Explore our Lab section. There's a panel that says "Intelligent Octopus Go for EVs". Hit the Get Started button and you're away.

Why oh why does it take someone from the smart team to tell me this very basic but misleading method of adding an EV. Why can't someone at the end of the phone at Octopus tell me??? Pretty astonishing lack of customer service there.
And did you remove your old device?
 
What device are you enrolling for IO?
It was the car. Been having charges simply not doing what they are supposed to intermittently for 18 months or so. Multiple issues logged, and they recently asked us to remove the car as a device and add it back in (I think futile) attempt to solve the problems. What they didn't tell me was that you do this from the bottom of the home screen, not the settings menu where it says "add a device" under my devices. So I was stuck until I stumbled on that by accident.